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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 26 Dec 2017

      Let's make 2018 "make programming more accessible to people not already doing it" year.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 26 Dec 2017

      Less "forcing them to think about", more "making an easy onramp for learning and understanding"

      7:55 AM - 26 Dec 2017
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        2. Laurie‏ @lclarkmichalek 26 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats

          I hope people who do try and force people to think about things distill their intent and apply it in a way that has more empathy for new users :) said as a bit of a force-thinker

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 26 Dec 2017
          Replying to @lclarkmichalek

          I think the first step is realizing that most people are using 100% of their brain on building features and can't absorb more things to "think about" all the time without quality suffering. So we need to bake these things into the programming model like "secure by default"

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        4. Laurie‏ @lclarkmichalek 26 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats

          Yes, totally. Often the intent behind force-thinking is really 'make APIs surface the things that matter to users'. A TLS API that forces you to think about trivialities is dangerous, a TLS API that surfaces the bits that actually matter can be both safe, nux friendly and forcing

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        2. Robert Roskam‏ @raiderrobert 26 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats

          Some of the concepts are hard, but we shouldn't be adding barriers to understanding. People who do that are interested in making themselves look good rather than teaching.

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 26 Dec 2017
          Replying to @raiderrobert

          It's pretty common for someone to justify a design decision on the grounds of "forcing people to think about <something>". It makes sense with a shallow analysis but: 1. You can't make people think about many things all the time 2. It destroys learning

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        4. Robert Roskam‏ @raiderrobert 26 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats

          Wat?! I apparently haven't been around those circles because I don't think I have ever heard or seen that done. That's anti-newbie and, for that matter, anti-maintainer.

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        1. Mx. D'Rekt‏ @to_json 26 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats

          Hey you seem like a good target for this question: what do you think about things like Factorio and the Zachtronics games to this end? i feel like they make deep concepts (queuing, concurrency, complexity management) accessible but iono if they also cause scar tissue.

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        1. {{{Jack Reichert}}}‏ @JackReichert 26 Dec 2017
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          If you haven’t had a chance to play the Swift playgrounds learn to code yet... it’s adorable.

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        1. REST is ded, Long live graphQL‏ @basicBrogrammer 26 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats

          Glad you clarified "less forcing" I feel like anyone can code but some people think you have to be a rocket scientist

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