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    1. Who ordered *that*?‏ @ManishEarth 25 Dec 2017

      Who ordered *that*? Retweeted Ana Tudor  🐯

      Or use basically *any* accessibility feature or try to input text in a different language. Please don't reinvent browser features in JS; you're going to miss on a *lot* of engineering work put into making stuff work for everyone.https://twitter.com/anatudor/status/945370849871265793 …

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      Ana Tudor  🐯 @anatudor
      Please don't recreate form elements with divs. Because it's highly unlikely you'll reproduce all functionality with JS. And somebody will try to focus it. Or click on a certain part of your nice control. Expecting the thing to work like a native element does. But it won't. 😭
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    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 25 Dec 2017
      Replying to @ManishEarth

      The thing people miss is that the web has a design principle that things like <input> and <select> delegate to the OS controls. This is a feature not a bug! Flash tried to unify and while the controls were pretty enough and consistent, the experience sucked.

      4 replies 2 retweets 16 likes
    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 25 Dec 2017
      Replying to @wycats @ManishEarth

      Accessibility is just a special case of "paste works, even when paste means long-press for an OS specified amount of time and select 'paste' from an OS supplied menu". Nobody can make <select> correctly work the way it should even when iOS redesigns or when mobile gets popular.

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    4. Who ordered *that*?‏ @ManishEarth 25 Dec 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      I wouldn't really phrase it as a special case; given that there are tons of other things you can get wrong (cursors for non Latin text, for one) even if you let the OS drive the actual input. But yeah, essentially, true.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 25 Dec 2017
      Replying to @ManishEarth

      Fair enough, you can't just lean on the OS. But as a starting point, leaning on OS-provided controls that the OS already knows how to make accessible will make the problem tractable. Rebuilding from the ground up makes it intractable.

      7:08 PM - 25 Dec 2017
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        2. Who ordered *that*?‏ @ManishEarth 25 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats

          Oh no, that wasn't what I was saying, I was saying that "paste working perfectly" is not the general case because you can get paste to work in accordance with expectations and still have other broken things which the OS would have handled for yourself.

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 25 Dec 2017
          Replying to @ManishEarth

          Ahhhhh... I was just using "paste" as an analogy for a category of things that people try to reinvent ("I'll just intercept ctrl-v") but which break both *normal* usability as well as accessibility.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 25 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats @ManishEarth

          Another way to say what (I think) we're both saying is that if you can't get "automatic paste" to work, you're not in the ballpark of getting other kinds of accessibility to work.

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        3. Who ordered *that*?‏ @ManishEarth 25 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats

          Oh, yeah, that's a better phrasing (and I agree)

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