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I'm not talking about people who don't *like* rails. I'm talking about people who choose not to learn it out of a conviction that it's a dying technology without otherwise having an opinion.
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To be fair, this is how the hype cycle goes. Look at the number of companies hiring Java developers. We placed a tombstone on that a decade ago :D
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I just feel bad for devs who become enthusiastic about rails once they realize there's work, but otherwise got demoralized by believing the bullshit in the SV environment. But yeah, it's how it goes.
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It's an imminent lesson in the need to be skeptical of all the SV bullshit, not just around technology choices

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HN is deeply corrosive to developers trying to gain an understanding of technology in the real world. We kind of need a place for people to chat who are using "uncool" technologies :p
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http://lobste.rs is better at resisting the hype cycle. it's not perfect, but much much better. a more senior, programming-only audience reading it I think.
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It also has a surprisingly high % of people cool with stuff I don't want to be seeing on a regular basis. I don't want to debate if they have a "right" to those opinions, but I certainly have the right to not want to see them day in and day out.
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I loved using it for a while, and then stopped not because of bad actors but because of bad actors being upvoted
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Right. It's not the bad people, it's the tolerance of them.
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This applies to every aspect in the world today...
Also, being a Ruby/Rails Dev and part of a startup using it as the core, I can relate to the "it's dying" crap... It's not!! It's still one of the most Dev friendly platforms...
#Ruby#rubyonrails#Programming#code#dev
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I am not saying that “Rails is dead.” But I would say that job postings and/or jobs total and/or lines of code in production are all trailing indicators of what will be useful to know tomorrow. Paul Graham and Joel Spolsky have made this point about Java and Windows in the past.
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And yet Java is doing fine. And is probably not a terrible thing to learn.
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Java is doing fine in all the ways that COBOL was doing fine in 1997. I don’t know anybody who lost their house because they only knew COBOL.
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On a long enough timeline we are indeed all dead. COBOL had been around for ~40 yrs by 1997. By that metric, Java should still be doing fine by 2036. Better Q: What do you like working with?
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Language commentary has been confused by winner-takes-all network logic, which does not apply. All you need is escape velocity and self-sufficient sustainability. Many langs/envs have acquired both. Pick amongst those and you’ll be fine.
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Winner takes all is rarely true even in networked situations. Who's the winner in video? You'd probably say YouTube but Vimeo and Twitch are doing well. Who's the social media winner? Facebook's king but what about Twitter? Winner-take-all is an excuse.
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Winner-take-all is an excuse, and a rich one from anyone using Rails, Ruby, JavaScript, or a dozen other successes that were once deemed “outsiders.” But nevertheless, I empathize with people who seek emotional comfort in going along with the crowd.
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Although many people win’t admit it—even to themselves—“Nobody got fired for buying IBM” usually means, “I don’t want all the people who buy IBM thinking that I’m a maverick.”
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