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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Dec 2017

      JavaScript code is much more expensive, byte for byte, than an image, because of the time spent parsing and compiling it. It's possible to parse and compile wasm as fast as it comes over the network, which makes it much more like an image than JavaScript code. Game changer!

      37 replies 491 retweets 1,786 likes
    2. vjeux ✪‏ @Vjeux 18 Dec 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      But wasm is not really JavaScript :( Would be nice to have a JavaScript bytecode with those good properties.

      7 replies 0 retweets 30 likes
    3. Sean Thomas Larkin (肖恩)‏ @TheLarkInn 18 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Vjeux @wycats

      Then it probably wouldn't resemble the JavaScript we love and use right? Or no?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. vjeux ✪‏ @Vjeux 18 Dec 2017
      Replying to @TheLarkInn @wycats

      It would be an output target, something webpack would generate. But it would be 1 to 1 with all the javascript constructions, so you could have a binary ast -> textual js tool that would produce equivalent javascript back

      2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    5. Ingvar Stepanyan‏ @RReverser 18 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Vjeux @TheLarkInn @wycats

      Sounds like Binary AST proposal to me?https://github.com/binast/ecmascript-binary-ast …

      1 reply 0 retweets 17 likes
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Dec 2017
      Replying to @RReverser @Vjeux @TheLarkInn

      Binary AST gets JS closer to wasm, but wasm would still have a huge advantage, even with optimistic projections. Plus binary-ast got a big skeptical shrug from TC39 (sadly) while wasm is shipping today.

      5:49 PM - 18 Dec 2017
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        2. Ingvar Stepanyan‏ @RReverser 18 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats @Vjeux @TheLarkInn

          Yes, it's shipping today, but they are not interchangeable, so it still doesn't matter for most devs while binary AST could provide great benefits for everyone with little to no changes to stack. The shrug part sounds sad indeed.

          1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Dec 2017
          Replying to @RReverser @Vjeux @TheLarkInn

          I'm strongly in favor of binary-ast. Speak to your local browser representative (FF is already bought in, so you can move on to other browsers).

          2 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
        4. Ingvar Stepanyan‏ @RReverser 18 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats @Vjeux @TheLarkInn

          If only JavaScript proposals would be decided on http://uservoice.com  or similar platform by entire community and not by vendors themselves...

          1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Dec 2017
          Replying to @RReverser @Vjeux @TheLarkInn

          It's called TC39. Plz join.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        6. Ingvar Stepanyan‏ @RReverser 18 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats @Vjeux @TheLarkInn

          First, individuals can't join, only companies whose interests lie there. Second, even if I could, it would be still a group of interested parties (aka vendors), just with one more added. Still not the community as a whole.

          2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Dec 2017
          Replying to @RReverser @Vjeux @TheLarkInn

          When I joined I was community member #1. Now there's tons of people not from vendors. The more the merrier! The more from the community the more we can all push for features of interest to the community. binary-ast has a chance because of this factor.

          1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
        8. Spoopy.__proto__  🎃‏ @DotProto 19 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats @RReverser and

          Can you share more details? ~1 year ago I reached out to the Secretary General about attending as a community member & was informed that I HAD to be sponsored by a company. As a minor figure (to put it gently) in the community that wasn't going to happen.

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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        2. Andy Gocke‏ @andygocke 19 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats @RReverser and

          Usually ASTs in compilers are highly unstable implementation details. It sounds like this will suffer one of two problems: 1) this AST is final, so now we have a fixed backend to target this IR and a separate one for other targets or...

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Andy Gocke‏ @andygocke 19 Dec 2017
          Replying to @andygocke @wycats and

          2) the AST is just shipping the compiler design, which will just be a fight between all JS compilers to ship their AST, and no one will be happy

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Ingvar Stepanyan‏ @RReverser 19 Dec 2017
          Replying to @andygocke @wycats and

          In JS land AST standard(s) for JS already exist and are generic enough. Same can be done for binary one between compilers.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Ingvar Stepanyan‏ @RReverser 19 Dec 2017
          Replying to @RReverser @andygocke and

          The problems you're talking about could be applied to WASM format as well, and yet everyone collaborated on creating a single IR that can be translated to whatever's used internally.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Ingvar Stepanyan‏ @RReverser 19 Dec 2017
          Replying to @RReverser @andygocke and

          I don't think this will be an issue for generic AST format either.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 19 Dec 2017
          Replying to @RReverser @andygocke and

          In particular: - the spec is already designed to evoke an AST - hiperf comes from later tiers - the JS compiler ecosystem has actively worked on some standardization - this problem wasn't a high order bit objection in TC39 when it came up (vs prioritization and "is it worth it")

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 19 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats @RReverser and

          I could be wrong about any of these assumptions, but I think the wins of binary are so large, that if we could get everyone to agree with the benefits, there'd be strong motivation to make it work. Cutting http://facebook.com  parse time by 8x is no small thing.

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 19 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats @RReverser and

          Oh and I meant to say: Because of the likely debate around trying to standardize a whole new AST (both from impl and other stakeholders) the path of least resistance is to stick closely to the spec's representations at first. I think this is a good thing

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        2. Bat Bat  🦇 🦇‏ @batmansmk 18 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats @RReverser and

          In 12 months in beta + 12 months out, not a single player started making $ with wasm. Magic tech, no use case yet.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Dec 2017
          Replying to @batmansmk @RReverser and

          What does making $ mean?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Bat Bat  🦇 🦇‏ @batmansmk 18 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats @RReverser and

          $=Dollars, Money. Sorry! wasm ships in 68% of browsers, fallbacks to asmjs for the rest.. yet afaik, no company has shipped some core product with wasm.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Dec 2017
          Replying to @batmansmk @RReverser and

          Glimmer (the project I'm working on) is gonna ship wasm Q1 2018 if all goes well. It'll then be in Ember, which is in tons of products that make $. wasm->asm fallback has serious issues and is still our #1 blocker.

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        6. Bat Bat  🦇 🦇‏ @batmansmk 18 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats @RReverser and

          Great! I need to check your branch :)

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        7. End of conversation

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