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    1. std::mem::transmute_copy(steve, lol)‏ @steveklabnik 15 Dec 2017

      this is how this damages mozilla; actions speak louder than wordspic.twitter.com/gouUhdX5Ly

      7 replies 16 retweets 91 likes
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    2. std::mem::transmute_copy(steve, lol)‏ @steveklabnik 15 Dec 2017

      In the end, one thing I'm glad about is that I feel like I can tweet about this at all; openness doesn't mean open only when things are good.

      5 replies 8 retweets 141 likes
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    3. std::mem::transmute_copy(steve, lol)‏ @steveklabnik 15 Dec 2017

      (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)pic.twitter.com/OiWIREd2OO

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    4. std::mem::transmute_copy(steve, lol)‏ @steveklabnik 15 Dec 2017

      this statement *completely* misunderstands the objection. My disappointment with @mozilla deepens

      6 replies 4 retweets 94 likes
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    5. std::mem::transmute_copy(steve, lol)‏ @steveklabnik 15 Dec 2017

      TFW you are mad enough to reply-all the whole company.

      12 replies 5 retweets 158 likes
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    6. Gavin Sharp‏ @gavinsharp 15 Dec 2017
      Replying to @steveklabnik

      I think you blew this way out of proportion. Actual harm to users here doesn’t exist. HN/Reddit hysteria picked up by tech press is a PR/comms blunder, which was not helped by your “upset employee” angle.

      4 replies 2 retweets 1 like
    7. std::mem::transmute_copy(steve, lol)‏ @steveklabnik 16 Dec 2017
      Replying to @gavinsharp

      Harm exists in the form of lost trust. I’m nowhere near the only employee upset; I don’t know any that are not

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    8. Gavin Sharp‏ @gavinsharp 16 Dec 2017
      Replying to @steveklabnik

      Amongst the very small subset of users who even noticed and cared, sure. Your tweet exacerbated rather than mitigated “loss of trust”, because you insinuated that something truly evil did happen here.

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. std::mem::transmute_copy(steve, lol)‏ @steveklabnik 16 Dec 2017
      Replying to @gavinsharp

      If users don’t notice something unethical, that didn’t mean something unethical didn’t happen. It matters.

      1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
    10. Gavin Sharp‏ @gavinsharp 16 Dec 2017
      Replying to @steveklabnik

      That’s probably at the core of our disagreement. I don’t think anything that happened here could be described as “unethical”.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2017
      Replying to @gavinsharp @steveklabnik

      How are we still discussing this? Mozilla's standards for ethics are very high and communicated to users. Let's not be debating with our users about whether something they consider is unethical actually is. Let's try to have a little higher standards than that.

      3:46 PM - 16 Dec 2017
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        2. Gavin Sharp‏ @gavinsharp 16 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats @steveklabnik

          I’m not debating any users, I’m telling you what I think 😀

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2017
          Replying to @gavinsharp @steveklabnik

          And I'm saying if users felt their privacy or security was violated, Mozilla's behavior was unethical and damaged its ability to successfully perform its mission.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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