There’s a difference between thoughtful debate and branding someone a heretic. Many of the replies to Sam I’d categorize as personal attacks.
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Here's an example thread I wrote. https://twitter.com/wycats/status/941888353485537280 … Would you categorize it as a personal attack?
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No, not a personal attack. But I also think you’re jumping to conclusions without really considering his ideas.
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Remember his thesis is “maybe we should be more tolerant of disagreeable ideas”. Everyone seems to be latching on to his one sentence about disparaging gay folks, which i think Sam included for effect to show how seriously he takes this (sam is gay)
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The fact that people are unable to consider the post in its entirety due to Sam inserting that objectionable sentence I think is a microcosm of what he’s talking about.
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If you removed that sentence and re-read the post, would you find merit in what he’s saying?
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If he removed the sentence it would still be offensive. Lots of communities in SF are very welcoming of diverse ideas. I would guess
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Sam may be wrong, or perhaps ignorant, but I don’t see how it’s offensive. What did you find offensive?
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A metaquestion: do you believe this is a productive conversation to be having? Or do you think his post does more harm than the conversation is worth?
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I think his framing does more harm than good. In particular, it allows "moderates" to feel morally virtuous about asking people to tone down their criticism of some common excuses for systemic problems.
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I don't really believe that Twitter getting angry at Damore caused an environment where SV is hostile to SpaceX so I don't see this particular framing as a useful input into a conversation.
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