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    1. Andrew Lee‏ @startupandrew 14 Dec 2017

      Andrew Lee Retweeted Sam Altman

      The replies to this tweet do a pretty good job of making Sam’s point.https://twitter.com/sama/status/941355543213498368 …

      Andrew Lee added,

      Sam AltmanVerified account @sama
      E Pur Si Muove: http://blog.samaltman.com/e-pur-si-muove 
      5 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2017
      Replying to @startupandrew

      It seems like the replies are a lot of people disagreeing. Very strongly. Are you saying if someone says something wrong people should hold back from disagreeing? And that holding back from disagreeing with something you disagree with is important for the spread of ideas?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Andrew Lee‏ @startupandrew 16 Dec 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      There’s a difference between thoughtful debate and branding someone a heretic. Many of the replies to Sam I’d categorize as personal attacks.

      1 reply 2 retweets 2 likes
    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2017
      Replying to @startupandrew

      Yehuda Katz  🥨 Retweeted Yehuda Katz  🥨

      Here's an example thread I wrote. https://twitter.com/wycats/status/941888353485537280 … Would you categorize it as a personal attack?

      Yehuda Katz  🥨 added,

      Yehuda Katz  🥨Verified account @wycats
      How do smart people conflate "wacky ideas that seem heretical" with "really bigoted opinions that are not related to empirical concepts at all and are only used to hurt people"? pic.twitter.com/SfkKoXYhSf
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    5. Andrew Lee‏ @startupandrew 16 Dec 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      No, not a personal attack. But I also think you’re jumping to conclusions without really considering his ideas.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Andrew Lee‏ @startupandrew 16 Dec 2017
      Replying to @startupandrew @wycats

      Remember his thesis is “maybe we should be more tolerant of disagreeable ideas”. Everyone seems to be latching on to his one sentence about disparaging gay folks, which i think Sam included for effect to show how seriously he takes this (sam is gay)

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Andrew Lee‏ @startupandrew 16 Dec 2017
      Replying to @startupandrew @wycats

      The fact that people are unable to consider the post in its entirety due to Sam inserting that objectionable sentence I think is a microcosm of what he’s talking about.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2017
      Replying to @startupandrew

      I don't think that's a good analysis. We're talking on Twitter so people are using his sentence because he used it as a real example of how far his perspective goes and it can fit into a tweet. I don't think it's an uncharitable shortening. He used the example on purpose.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2017
      Replying to @wycats @startupandrew

      I read the entire post multiple times. His argument boiled down to asking people to tone down their reactions to what they perceive to be bigoted attacks because an environment in which people react strongly en masse enables the notion of "heresy", ...

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2017
      Replying to @wycats @startupandrew

      And the notion of "heresy" is hard to control. He claims that ideas like Bitcoin or SpaceX wouldn't get good support in SV today because they are connected to "heretical" ideas like "we should try to work on things the government decided were too hard"

      9:20 AM - 16 Dec 2017
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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats @startupandrew

          But in reality, there is plenty of support for this alleged heresy, and plenty of people whose innovation we're not seeing because of a notion that we should discourage people experiencing bigotry from speaking out too aggressively.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats @startupandrew

          Silicon Valley's significant pushback against ideas like "women are biologically inferior as programmers" is not "creating a culture of heresy" around ideas like SpaceX.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats @startupandrew

          It's just not a good analysis. And it's pretty silly to claim that the above pushback is "an example of the problem"

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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