I'm really confused by arguments that try to tell people that they are morally obligated to tolerate people saying bigoted stuff. They always act like we as individuals have control over some kind of "invisible hand" of the zeitgeist.
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Replying to @wycats
Assuming you’re referring to Sam himself, rather than people supporting him. I don’t see him arguing for tolerance of bigotry, but rather letting people speak and then explaining why they’re wrong. But perhaps we’ve interpreted differently.
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Replying to @andrewingram
He very overtly said we need to have an environment that doesn't have norms against certain kinds of statements, and specifically used "gays are evil" as an example. The "heresy" framing means that pushing back too hard is bad.
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Replying to @wycats @andrewingram
It means "if people start getting scared that when they say something there will be a huge backlash, there is a problem" because you can't contain the "ability" to have a huge backlash to specific topics. Specifically:
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Replying to @wycats @andrewingram
"So if you want a culture that innovates, you can’t have a culture where you allow the concept of heresy—if you allow the concept at all, it tends to spread"
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Replying to @wycats @andrewingram
At some very abstract level, this sounds like a plausible claim, except that what it's saying is that if a community allows there to be a huge backlash against "gays are evil" (again, actual example he used), you make an environment that stifles innovation.
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Replying to @wycats @andrewingram
But this ignores that 1. Backlashes are often just a lot of people disagreeing at once, and this is pretty likely if someone says "gays are evil" 2. An env where people are not allowed to form a backlash against a statement like that stifles innovation from the targeted group
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Replying to @wycats @andrewingram
To lump together bigoted expression with ideas, he gives some examples of things that are heretical in SV because of the ability for backlash. And it's simply not true that "ideas that the government decided are too hard" are heretical and support-starved in SV.pic.twitter.com/Sr6A4YO5ML
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So in all, this is just a request for people targeted by bigotry to tone down their responses, because if people get too much negative response to "gays are evil" they might not build SpaceX.
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