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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Dec 2017

      As a non-Mozilla-employee Mozilla contributor, It's rather frustrating that these comments can exist at all. Things like the "Studies" infrastructure should be managed by a community governance structure, not Mozilla Corp corporate hierarchy.pic.twitter.com/Rj59WeQKZT

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    2. Noah Botimer‏ @botimer 15 Dec 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      I rarely differ from your opinions on community issues. I see a bungle here and community governance is reasonable, but I don't see it as an absolute requirement. Mozilla has always worked on a social mission. They goof up and correct. I have trouble with outrage at the mistakes.

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    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Dec 2017
      Replying to @botimer

      I said "rather frustrated" not "outraged"

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    4. Noah Botimer‏ @botimer 15 Dec 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      Certainly. Sorry; I projected some of the comments on you there. My larger point is that there is a certain amount of trust and latitude I give Mozilla-the-org given their track record, and there is some vision of the field that the leadership has which doesn't always translate.

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    5. Noah Botimer‏ @botimer 15 Dec 2017
      Replying to @botimer @wycats

      I think you are right to be frustrated. I am just not sure about the call that all of these decisions should go to community. Some/most, sure. All, probably not. I think your view is quite healthy. The "this is the last straw; I'm uninstalling" view seems hyperbolic.

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    6. Noah Botimer‏ @botimer 15 Dec 2017
      Replying to @botimer @wycats

      I think community is almost always wiser than any given person or small group. There is a tricky balance here where my personal position is: Mozilla has the right to do whatever they want with Firefox, and they are usually wise enough to keep the agenda and community in tune.

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    7. Noah Botimer‏ @botimer 15 Dec 2017
      Replying to @botimer @wycats

      This case seems to be a mistake that has now gotten plenty of feedback. I expect to see A) better internal guidelines, B) better information on what's upcoming/shipped, C) a better input channel to guide Studies direction. Those are "soft" governance changes I can get with.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Dec 2017
      Replying to @botimer

      The "rule" I wanted was much narrower than it might have seemed. I'm saying that technical tools like telemetry should be used as part of a community governance process. I am not saying that things like search deals should be governed by the community, for example.

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        1. Noah Botimer‏ @botimer 15 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats

          We are aligned. All is the right with my world again. :-)

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