It’s also important to recognize that being colleagues is a kind of privilege you have to actively push back against—you have levels of access to each other others don’t, and you can’t let that creep into special status.
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We learned this the hard way in the early years of (way pre-1.0) Rust.
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Replying to @littlecalculist @mikehenrty and
Exactly, this is how Mozilla was originally designed. :) https://www-archive.mozilla.org/mission.html [Mozilla project's mission statement circa 1998] We lost it in the [lack of] onboarding once MoCo got money to hire people.
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Replying to @fantasai @littlecalculist and
(To be fair Netscape, and even MoFo after it, struggled with implementing the concept sometimes. But it was understood this is what we were aiming for.)
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Replying to @fantasai @littlecalculist and
Any artificial barrier will end up leaving talented and motivated people on the outside with no clear way to contribute. The idea that external "volunteers" won't do many of the things that paid contributors do is a commonly believed myth.
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Replying to @wycats @littlecalculist and
s/won't/won't or can't/, since that's also a myth! Mozilla has historically had active module owners, high-level leadership "staff", and even a sysadmin who were not employees.
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Replying to @fantasai @littlecalculist and
I struggled with the wording there. There are many excuses people use: - won't - can't - won't be interested - can't be skilled enough - won't have enough context In practice there are many counterexamples to each excuse in almost all areas (including sysadmin as you said)
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Sysadmin is actually a very "easy" one, because lots of people happen to know how to do ops, and many of them in principle are excited about "contributing to Firefox" So you can get people who do this kind of thing for a living to help and feel awesome doing it.
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Replying to @wycats @littlecalculist and
It's hard because of the level of trust required.
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Yeah. The more a project resists using employment as a proxy for trust, the easier it is for contributors to level up to being trusted enough to take on a sensitive role like that.
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Replying to @wycats @littlecalculist and
Meanwhile we currently have problems with marketing refusing to trust localizers wrt translations (and ending up doing things wrong by overriding their localized judgement, no less).
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