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    1. Allen Wirfs-Brock‏ @awbjs 6 Dec 2017

      One the job training is fine if you expect to be programming for only 5-10 years. A 30-50 year career requires a foundation that you are unlikely to get on the job. If you love programming, get your CS degree.

      92 replies 39 retweets 141 likes
    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Dec 2017
      Replying to @awbjs

      This does not seem true.

      2 replies 0 retweets 94 likes
    3. Allen Wirfs-Brock‏ @awbjs 6 Dec 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      how so?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Dec 2017
      Replying to @awbjs

      There is nothing special about academic institutions that hold the keys to CS knowledge. I've been programming for 12 years. Are you suggesting I should take a four year break to go back to school?

      20 replies 16 retweets 171 likes
    5. Sarah Drasner‏ @sarah_edo 6 Dec 2017
      Replying to @wycats @awbjs

      Likewise, 14 years over here. If you want to get a degree, go for it! But there is no hard rule that you need one. The industry moves so quickly that the most important thing is to learn how to learn on your own.

      4 replies 8 retweets 78 likes
    6. Ryan Florence‏ @ryanflorence 6 Dec 2017
      Replying to @sarah_edo @wycats @awbjs

      11 years for me! My career has never been more fruitful than it is now and I'm past the 10 year mark 😋

      3 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
    7. Allen Wirfs-Brock‏ @awbjs 6 Dec 2017
      Replying to @ryanflorence @sarah_edo @wycats

      check back in at 40

      10 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Dec 2017
      Replying to @awbjs @ryanflorence @sarah_edo

      Respectfully, think about the concrete people you are talking about here. Your argument amounts to questioning my personal CS work (and many others) as being fundamentally illegitimate in the absence of a degree. I don't think you mean to be saying that.

      2 replies 0 retweets 18 likes
    9. Allen Wirfs-Brock‏ @awbjs 6 Dec 2017
      Replying to @wycats @ryanflorence @sarah_edo

      Not my intent. But I do think you are an extreme outlier and it is a disservice to use yourself as a model for them norm (same probably could be said for me).

      5 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. Allen Wirfs-Brock‏ @awbjs 6 Dec 2017
      Replying to @awbjs @wycats and

      What I’m more interested in what it takes to build life-long careers in computing. People you only learn the current trendy tech or what is required for the current job than easily fall out of the career.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Dec 2017
      Replying to @awbjs @ryanflorence @sarah_edo

      Working programmers do not universally "only learn the trendy tech". There is a wide spectrum including people with great respect for computer science who are looking for ways to learn.

      12:05 PM - 6 Dec 2017
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        2. JAVASCRIPT PETER VENKMAN‏ @ken_wheeler 6 Dec 2017
          Replying to @wycats @awbjs and

          I would wager to say that autodidacts have the distinct advantage of self tutelage which is invaluable in an industry where learning is a constant. If we can teach ourselves enough to get here, what could we possibly be missing?

          2 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
        3. JAVASCRIPT PETER VENKMAN‏ @ken_wheeler 6 Dec 2017
          Replying to @ken_wheeler @wycats and

          I personally invest a ton of time, not only in the cutting edge, but also in fundamentals and CS theory. I don't see why paying 100k to be lectured on freely available concepts would be any better than what I'm doing right now.

          1 reply 0 retweets 15 likes
        4. JAVASCRIPT PETER VENKMAN‏ @ken_wheeler 6 Dec 2017
          Replying to @ken_wheeler @wycats and

          Further, with regards to a life long career, I fully expect that at some point I'll transition to a managerial role, in which basic CS concepts have no bearing. The on-the-job people skills and pure experience is what makes one suitable for those roles.

          1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
        5. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 6 Dec 2017
          Replying to @ken_wheeler @wycats and

          Is this like that scene in Old School when Will Ferrell has a moment of clarity and drops some serious truth bombs???

          2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
        6. JAVASCRIPT PETER VENKMAN‏ @ken_wheeler 6 Dec 2017
          Replying to @AdamRackis @wycats and

          I just play an asshole on TV

          0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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