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    Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 30 Nov 2017

    One thing I've noticed when reading stuff from passionate Rubyists is how much many other communities seem infused with Very Serious Programmer groupthink in contrast. Everyone thinks Ruby's "programmer happiness" mantra is old news but you never hear it elsewhere.

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      1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 30 Nov 2017

        Instead, people talk over and over again about designing tools that will "force programmers to think about" various things. As if that kind of paternalism ever worked. I much prefer a focus on productivity and happiness. All else flows from morale.

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      2. Matt Hargett‏ @syke 4 Dec 2017
        Replying to @wycats @fashionate

        o rly? Not sure that I agree. What other communities have very large majority of groupthink? Are you saying tooling maturity isn’t critical for scaling adoption? Not sure how to read this declaration.

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      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 4 Dec 2017
        Replying to @syke @fashionate

        For me, the difference is between optimizing for happiness vs "forces you to think about" "Forces you to think about" is popular among Very Serious Programmers but doesn't work. Also see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudge_theory … which won a nobel prize this year.

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      4. Matt Hargett‏ @syke 4 Dec 2017
        Replying to @wycats @fashionate

        Even medium-sized Ruby projects I worked on in the past adopted tooling like @codeclimate very early on to reign in some of root causes of issues that critically impacted team scaling. Same for enforcement of minimum code coverage. Do those fall into "happiness" or "groupthink"?

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      1. Bill Burcham‏ @billburcham 30 Nov 2017
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        Ways a computer language can make me happy: 1. simplicity 🎈 2. power 3. reach [4. acceptability ⚓️] It's why I was drawn to LISP and then to Ruby (pretty much a Lisp) and then back to Lisp (Clojure) and Haskell (and friends).

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      2. Liam McArdle‏ @mcardleliam 30 Nov 2017
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        I hear this a lot in the Elixir community

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      3. Luca Corti‏ @lucacorti 30 Nov 2017
        Replying to @mcardleliam @wycats

        #elixirlang original author Jose Valim comes from the Ruby community. Guess he brought that culture into Elixir.

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      1. João M. D. Moura‏ @joaomdmoura 30 Nov 2017
        Replying to @wycats @twitty_tim

        I’ve been hearing it on Elixir communities, but that might be only a consequence of the fact that many rubyist are trying it out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      2. Lazarus‏ @TonsOfLaziness 30 Nov 2017
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        Laravel community fully on board with programmer happiness, from what I've seen!

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      3. Ley‏ @leyluj 30 Nov 2017
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        I'm here for laravel 😁

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      1. Joshua Kovach‏ @shekibobo 30 Nov 2017
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        I've been hearing (and saying) this about Kotlin.

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      1. Topher Hunt‏ @hunttopher 1 Dec 2017
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        I dunno, I hear it in Elixir all the time. Mostly from my own mouth, but still.

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      1. Josh Justice  🛤 🐹 ✌️ ⚛️‏ @CodingItWrong 30 Nov 2017
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        do you feel like ember's community has been able to achieve a focus like this?

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