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    1. DHH‏Verified account @dhh 23 Nov 2017

      Engagement is simply a Silicon Valley euphemism for addiction.

      23 replies 455 retweets 1,857 likes
    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @dhh

      How do you describe the work of making @basecamp good enough so that people want to keep using it and don't forget about it. (I'm not looking for a glib answer here if possible)

      3 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    3. DHH‏Verified account @dhh 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @wycats @basecamp

      Effectiveness. Basecamp can be extremely effective for an organization even if it’s only used a few times per week. Maximizing “time spent on BC” is almost an anti-measure.

      8 replies 16 retweets 149 likes
    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @dhh @basecamp

      So for example when working on @skylight we try to identify why some people don't come back and fix it. "Effectiveness" seems not too clear (I don't use "engagement" to refer to this, either).

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. DHH‏Verified account @dhh 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @wycats @basecamp @skylight

      I don’t know if effectiveness can easily be reduced to a quantifiable metric. But it has to “hurt” if the thing went away. If people don’t miss Basecamp when it’s gone, it’s not effective.

      1 reply 1 retweet 10 likes
    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @dhh @basecamp @skylight

      Do you think all "reminders" are bad? Or just object to the overbroad "engagement" (which indeed is most often used to justify addictive, predatory behavior)

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Paul Montreal‏ @thepaulmontreal 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @wycats @dhh and

      if a thing really solves a problem that you're suffering, how much do you need reminding?

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @thepaulmontreal @dhh and

      This conversation is really weird on Twitter. People forget shit. There's entire products that exist purely to remind people of things they thought were important but were worried they'd forget. Not every product is LifeAlert.

      2:07 PM - 24 Nov 2017
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        2. DHH‏Verified account @dhh 24 Nov 2017
          Replying to @wycats @thepaulmontreal and

          To me the difference is whether the purpose is to “remind” or to deliver independent value. For Skylight, knowing once per week what’s slower/faster is value first, reminder second.

          1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Nov 2017
          Replying to @dhh @thepaulmontreal and

          Yeah I think if the email doesn't provide independent value you're doing it wrong. We thought about this lots when we originally rolled it out.

          0 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
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        1. Paul Montreal‏ @thepaulmontreal 24 Nov 2017
          Replying to @wycats @dhh and

          Sure, sometimes they forget the marketing that told them he had a problem they really didn't :) No offence to your product, I don't know what it is.

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