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    1. Ron Coleman‏Verified account @RonColeman 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @wycats @realjbullock

      Yes. It referred to "delegitimizing news organizations." So my question stands. If the "Did you read my tweet?" crack indicates the level of discussion you're up for I'm probably not interested in the answer, however.

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    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @RonColeman @realjbullock

      Sorry about the crack. Efforts by government officials to reduce the legitimacy of news organizations roughly match the timeline you posted. The more likely the average report in a publication is to be true, the more dangerous.

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    3. Ron Coleman‏Verified account @RonColeman 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @wycats @realjbullock

      Interesting insight!

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    4. Ron Coleman‏Verified account @RonColeman 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @RonColeman @wycats @realjbullock

      According to https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007655# …, the Nazis took control of the press by seizing destroying opposition facilities, forced sales of press outlets, taking control of the journalism "guild" and censoring content. So let's watch for that.

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    5. Ron Coleman‏Verified account @RonColeman 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @RonColeman @wycats @realjbullock

      I guess we'd also want to be concerned about people in or close to power referring to news reports as being part of a "vast conspiracy" of whatever "wing" they aren't a member. Besides, sometimes even those are true!

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    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @RonColeman @realjbullock

      It seems pretty unlikely that: 1. We are in a literal repeat of the Nazi era 2. The next "thought control" (your term) problem will look the same. It also seems acceptable to be worried about the President seeming to egg on folks like the Stormer.

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    7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @wycats @RonColeman @realjbullock

      I don't mean to Godwin this conversation but it *is* about Nazis ;) As a Jewish American who had family victimized by the Nazis, it seems ok for me to be worried about the fact that the President wink wink nods nods at people activated by this website.pic.twitter.com/2EbXVqbjws

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    8. Ron Coleman‏Verified account @RonColeman 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @wycats @realjbullock

      But a POTUS sending money and arming to Iran - an actual fascist, antisemitic state whose policy is both Holocaust denial and actively Jew-murdering - doesn't bother you?

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    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @RonColeman @realjbullock

      It bothers me (a lot) and I'd be happy to discuss why it's more nuanced than your statement implies as a separate conversation. Where's the nuance in POTUS defending Stormer-activated marchers chanting Nazi slogans?

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    10. Ron Coleman‏Verified account @RonColeman 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @wycats @realjbullock

      You're hung up on whether Trump plays the "disavow" game to your satisfaction? He'll never play it. I'll go with the militantly pro-Israel UN ambassador, a staff (and family) consisting of innumerable observant Jews and other conduct - of his.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @RonColeman @realjbullock

      There's a difference between demanding a disavowal and him volunteering junk like "on many sides". Nobody forced him to say that. https://web.archive.org/web/20170814195122/https://www.dailystormer.com/unitetheright-charlottesville-live-updates/ … I'd ask you to read this and then decide whether there's a problem with POTUS granting credibility to it.

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        2. Ron Coleman‏Verified account @RonColeman 24 Nov 2017
          Replying to @wycats @realjbullock

          Trump isn't articulate enough to pull off the nuanced point about LW violence he tried to make regarding Charlottesville. That goes in the loss column. It is of no policy or practical significance however.

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Nov 2017
          Replying to @RonColeman @realjbullock

          It has the practical consequence of emboldening these fanatics. And I'm not quite as forgiving about his comments as you are. He's swimming in a toxic brew (including Don Jr., who has power due to POTUS and is far more overt). Personnel is policy, like it or not.pic.twitter.com/rSfMxtZbdl

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        4. Ron Coleman‏Verified account @RonColeman 24 Nov 2017
          Replying to @wycats @realjbullock

          I think it's clear where we disagree. You're very concerned about optics, influence and and a perceived underlying vein of rabid antisemitic support for Trump. And I'm not. Happy to discuss related issues any time in the future 😊

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        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Nov 2017
          Replying to @RonColeman @realjbullock

          Sounds good :) Again, Good Shabbos!

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