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    1. Joseph Dylan Stewart‏ @jdylanstewart 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @AdamRackis @wycats and

      That's the thing though. Each tool serves a specific standalone purpose that I may or may not want. Want types? Add flow/TS. Want bundling? Add webpack. Want more advanced styles? Add LESS/SASS. You can do all of these things completely independent from one another.

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    2. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @jdylanstewart @wycats and

      I'm happy all those things exist. I just wish, in general, our web dev toolchain was professionally maintained, like in the .net ecosystem. Relying on volunteer OSS labor is a fundamentally broken model imo.

      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    3. Dan Bucholtz‏ @danbucholtz 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @AdamRackis @jdylanstewart and

      Cheers to that brother. Angular and Ember are close to this but I'd like to get closer to .Net as well. There is something beautiful about clicking a play button and it just works. Makes it 1000x easier to get started creating something of value.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Joseph Dylan Stewart‏ @jdylanstewart 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @danbucholtz @AdamRackis and

      So are we talking a toolchain configurator and maintainer? Like "I want hot reloading with Sass, React, Redux and testing with Jest. GO!" And then "I was using less, but now I've decided to use css-in-js,eye reconfogure".

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    5. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @jdylanstewart @danbucholtz and

      Honestly not sure what the end result would look like, coming from where we are. Was only just commenting on how much more stable and reliable the .net ecosystem is, compared to the web dev OSS free-for-all :)

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    6. Joseph Dylan Stewart‏ @jdylanstewart 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @AdamRackis @danbucholtz and

      To be fair, the OSS free-for-all has produced some truly great development tools. "move fast and break things" definitely breaks things, but it also moves real fast.

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    7. Dan Bucholtz‏ @danbucholtz 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @jdylanstewart @AdamRackis and

      Yep. I think web development in 5 years will look nothing like it does today. Nobody will use webpack and all of these complicated tools. They'll use built-in browser facilities to accomplish largely same thing.

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    8. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @danbucholtz @jdylanstewart and

      With the direction browser-based ESM and import() have been going, I don't see webpack going anywhere anytime soon.

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    9. Dan Bucholtz‏ @danbucholtz 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @AdamRackis @jdylanstewart and

      Knowing the road map of at least two major web frameworks, I think you will be surprised 🤠🤘🤓

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    10. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @danbucholtz @jdylanstewart and

      Web frameworks, or browsers? It's the native implementation of ESM / import() that seem troubling imo

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @AdamRackis @danbucholtz and

      Major frameworks often get confused into thinking they can jump to the punchline and #UseThePlatform right now. Lots of hype is usually followed by quiet implementation shifts to more custom code. You rarely hear "polymer isn't using Shadow DOM" or "no major framework uses WC"

      6:33 PM - 15 Nov 2017
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        2. Dan Bucholtz‏ @danbucholtz 15 Nov 2017
          Replying to @wycats @AdamRackis and

          And even web components aren’t a silver bullet, despite some of our marketing that i disagree with. It’s the compiler nature and smart code gen then makes stencil small

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        3. Dan Bucholtz‏ @danbucholtz 15 Nov 2017
          Replying to @danbucholtz @wycats and

          Tom is 100% right. Compilers are the next great step in web frameworks. You can codegen super small, super fast code from elegant, user land code

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Nov 2017
          Replying to @danbucholtz @AdamRackis and

          I of course agree completely.

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