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    1. Dan Bucholtz‏ @danbucholtz 14 Nov 2017
      Replying to @jdylanstewart @wycats @TheLarkInn

      By a major company, yes.

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    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @danbucholtz @jdylanstewart @TheLarkInn

      Why does it need to be by a major company? We have stuff like Angular, Polymer, React. I'm happy stuff like Ember exists despite not being by a bigco.

      4 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    3. Dan Bucholtz‏ @danbucholtz 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @wycats @jdylanstewart @TheLarkInn

      The web is so disjointed. I just look at .Net desktop, iOS cocoa touch or Android dev and it's so much more cohesive of an end-to-end developer experience.

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    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @danbucholtz @jdylanstewart @TheLarkInn

      It's also much, much bigger and covers a much broader set of use cases and environments. Oh, and deprecations don't work that well on the web ;)

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @wycats @danbucholtz and

      That's only part of it. Having a rich corporation own the end-to-end experience makes so much difference. The web doesn't even have a word in its vocabulary to describe the stability I enjoyed in my .net days.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @AdamRackis @wycats and

      I'm so sick of the web's lack of stability that honestly having Facebook own React is a huge selling point for me.

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    7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @AdamRackis @danbucholtz and

      If only Facebook owning React actually resulted in what you want. Instead, React is less stable than .net and the biggest new tool Facebook wrote advertises the ability to "eject" as a main selling point. Postgres has had a much better run than almost any DB, by analogy.

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    8. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @wycats @danbucholtz and

      Don't conflate "stability" with "I don't have to learn new things." By stability I mean it works, isn't buggy, etc.

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    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @AdamRackis @danbucholtz and

      I definitely don't mean the latter :) In order to get this kind of stability, a project needs to be serious about owning the primary end to end experience, and "eject" is very corrosive to this goal.

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    10. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @wycats @danbucholtz and

      I've never used CRA so I can't really comment :) Setting up React on its own is just not that hard so I never felt the need to check it out. (also I don't set up new React projects often at all so I'm sure that's part of it too)

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Nov 2017
      Replying to @AdamRackis @danbucholtz and

      It just means that the sense of stability you're after, where everyone uses the same tools and they get less and less buggy over time, isn't gonna happen on top of CRA. As you said, CRA doesn't even have the vocabulary for why they should care.

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        1. Ville M. Vainio‏ @vivainio 15 Nov 2017
          Replying to @wycats @AdamRackis and

          Guess it's also in the name. It's not MRA (maintain...)

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        1. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 15 Nov 2017
          Replying to @wycats @danbucholtz and

          I'm less after everyone using the same tools, vs, there being fewer options, but they're all solid :) The JS fatigue people are insufferable, but sometimes they have half a point with what a mess things can be on the front end at times.

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