I don't see anything being politicized. Why is it political to respond that frameworks don't punish users, with examples.
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Replying to @petermbenjamin @wycats and
I was replying to Yehuda, who first said "spin". This is really simple: not all frameworks or libraries have the flaw we're discussing.
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Replying to @BrendanEich @petermbenjamin and
Because "you can use a static login page" has nothing to do with "punishment" and the idea that it's specific to React is spin ;)
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Replying to @wycats @petermbenjamin and
Jake wrote "React doesn't punish you for doing some stuff without React". I didn't see an attack on Ember. Was it a strawman? Not in '80s!
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Replying to @BrendanEich @petermbenjamin and
He said it "reflects well on React", which implies relative to something else.
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Replying to @wycats @BrendanEich and
That was in response to the React fans that were angry. I was saying "no, this should be celebrated"
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Replying to @jaffathecake @BrendanEich and
I think at this point we're in violent agreement. The whole framing of this thing across the board is very bizarre to me, but I get it :)
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Replying to @wycats @jaffathecake and
It's not bizarre in view of what Netflix said in their talk, plus that title. Rehydration etc. came late, people can & do still overuse JS.
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What's bizarre is talking about the login page as if it's particularly representative of other use-cases.
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Replying to @wycats @BrendanEich and
My interpretation: React is small and maximally flexible, which allows people to consider novel use cases like server-only templating layer.
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Good interpretation. Glad we exposed a flexible primitive in Ember (visit()) so FastBoot is possible ;)
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"Only the most brave should even consider deploying this to production" – sounds like it's
@BrendanEich inspired
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