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    1. Andrew Konoff‏ @andknf 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @lennym

      there's also this event-orientedness of serverless stuff that I think is important to capture, vs. PaaS like Heroku.

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    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @andknf @lennym

      So the non-REST is a critical difference? Seems a little weird I think.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Andrew Konoff‏ @andknf 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @lennym

      i don't think it's just non-REST — but if you're building a RESTful API in serverless, you're still architecting events

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    4. Andrew Konoff‏ @andknf 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @andknf @wycats @lennym

      endpoints + requests give way to functions + events. it's a similar pattern, but it's general to serverless

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    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @andknf @lennym

      But since you're not calling functions by reference you're still invoking something by endpoint name and params no?

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    6. Andrew Konoff‏ @andknf 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @lennym

      yeah — like, we still have to handle requests. but a function's a whole container. there's no request-piping stack inside a function (nrmly)

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    7. Andrew Konoff‏ @andknf 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @andknf @wycats @lennym

      so fundamentally, yes. you're still building a restful api where a request hits an endpoint. but that becomes an event…

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    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @andknf @lennym

      What's a request piping stack?

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    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @andknf @lennym

      Do you mean that the routing is outside the deployed app and in the "framework" (lambda, etc)?

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    10. Andrew Konoff‏ @andknf 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @lennym

      yes! exactly. we don't have a web framework here; it's present in the uhhh serverless framework/platform/whatever you wanna call it

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @andknf @lennym

      So you have a framework but it's hardcoded in the platform, right?

      9:58 AM - 20 Oct 2017
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        2. Andrew Konoff‏ @andknf 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @lennym

          mostly. it doesn't have to be hardcoded tho. which is why i like thinking of it as an event-driven distributed container-spinning-up infra

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        3. JohnB‏ @JohnB 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @andknf @wycats @lennym

          Will it eventually just devolve to a graphQL interaction? It seems like the only way to avoid some eventual “server-less” vendor lock-in.

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        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @JohnB @andknf @lennym

          GraphQL is not magically non-proprietary ;)

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        5. JohnB‏ @JohnB 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @andknf @lennym

          I don’t know enough to debate graphQL encumbrances. I meant the benefit of JS asking 4 what it’s needs, unconstrained by RESTful endpoints.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @JohnB @andknf @lennym

          Why are RESTful endpoints more constraining than GraphQL?

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        7. JohnB‏ @JohnB 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @andknf @lennym

          Every RESTful API I’ve worked with has required both client and server changes to provide additional data in one round trip. Not w/GraphQL

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @JohnB @andknf @lennym

          Additional data in one round trip?

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. David‏ @Da_vidgf 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @andknf @lennym

          The routing, or triggers that fire your functions, are configured in infrastructure templates (CloudFormation in AWS)

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        3. David‏ @Da_vidgf 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @Da_vidgf @wycats and

          Nature of events is diverse, including HTTP. You can point all your endpoints to one function and manage routing there(Expressjs,for ex.)

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