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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 20 Oct 2017

      So I'm no fan of whiny prescriptivism language complainers, but "serverless" really takes the cake for a pointlessly confusing neologism.

      5 replies 8 retweets 54 likes
    2. Lenny Martin‏ @lennym 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      How would you describe that which is called "serverless"?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @lennym

      Autoscaling PaaS? I mean I don't love XaaS either but at least it doesn't sound like something it's not.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Andrew Konoff‏ @andknf 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @lennym

      there's also this event-orientedness of serverless stuff that I think is important to capture, vs. PaaS like Heroku.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @andknf @lennym

      So the non-REST is a critical difference? Seems a little weird I think.

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    6. Andrew Konoff‏ @andknf 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @lennym

      i don't think it's just non-REST — but if you're building a RESTful API in serverless, you're still architecting events

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    7. Andrew Konoff‏ @andknf 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @andknf @wycats @lennym

      endpoints + requests give way to functions + events. it's a similar pattern, but it's general to serverless

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @andknf @lennym

      But since you're not calling functions by reference you're still invoking something by endpoint name and params no?

      9:51 AM - 20 Oct 2017
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        2. Andrew Konoff‏ @andknf 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @lennym

          yeah — like, we still have to handle requests. but a function's a whole container. there's no request-piping stack inside a function (nrmly)

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        3. Andrew Konoff‏ @andknf 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @andknf @wycats @lennym

          so fundamentally, yes. you're still building a restful api where a request hits an endpoint. but that becomes an event…

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        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @andknf @lennym

          What's a request piping stack?

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        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @andknf @lennym

          Do you mean that the routing is outside the deployed app and in the "framework" (lambda, etc)?

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        6. Andrew Konoff‏ @andknf 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @lennym

          yes! exactly. we don't have a web framework here; it's present in the uhhh serverless framework/platform/whatever you wanna call it

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @andknf @lennym

          So you have a framework but it's hardcoded in the platform, right?

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        8. Andrew Konoff‏ @andknf 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @lennym

          mostly. it doesn't have to be hardcoded tho. which is why i like thinking of it as an event-driven distributed container-spinning-up infra

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