Ha! I kind of *am* a whiny prescriptivist language complainer, and I like "serverless" … it seems useful and self-evident to me. :-)
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What does it self evidently mean?
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That you don't have to worry about or administer the servers. (Yes, it's technically incorrect. But I instantly knew what it meant the 1/
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first time I heard it, and I haven't heard any other term that I think is better.) 2/2
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Why did this feel new and different compared to Heroku? Or would you call Heroku serverless too?
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Not saying serverless is a perfect term, and I would welcome a better one. But I think the snark about it is tiresome.
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I'm mostly trying to figure out what is different about it vs Heroku (there are things!) and the name obscures more than it helps.
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FaaS is better, I think.
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How would you describe that which is called "serverless"?
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Autoscaling PaaS? I mean I don't love XaaS either but at least it doesn't sound like something it's not.
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there's also this event-orientedness of serverless stuff that I think is important to capture, vs. PaaS like Heroku.
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So the non-REST is a critical difference? Seems a little weird I think.
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i don't think it's just non-REST — but if you're building a RESTful API in serverless, you're still architecting events
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endpoints + requests give way to functions + events. it's a similar pattern, but it's general to serverless
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But since you're not calling functions by reference you're still invoking something by endpoint name and params no?
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yeah — like, we still have to handle requests. but a function's a whole container. there's no request-piping stack inside a function (nrmly)
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FWIW I agree. Stupid term. Boils down to cost proportional to usage.
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What would you say are the salient differences between Heroku and "serverless"?
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Sometimes the same idea with a new name gets people excited and that’s ok.
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Yeah. The main cost is losing the ability to cleanly learn lessons from last rev. But empowering ppl ftw.
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I’m trying to keep some lessons from the past going.
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Seems legit.
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