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    1. Ville M. Vainio‏ @vivainio 19 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @AdamRackis and

      There is "return to previous AdWords" option. As I see it, teams should have the right to release features to different browsers gradually

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    2. David de Bruant de dtc de l'innovation‏ @DavidBruant 19 Oct 2017
      Replying to @vivainio @wycats and

      The differences between modern browsers are so thin nowadays that there is no justification to not do cross-browser from the start

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. David de Bruant de dtc de l'innovation‏ @DavidBruant 19 Oct 2017
      Replying to @DavidBruant @vivainio and

      I'm fine for instance that on google docs offline mode is chrome-only. Arguably hard to do well cross-browser. But a no-other-browser wall?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 19 Oct 2017
      Replying to @DavidBruant @vivainio and

      I'm fine if it's Service Worker only (standards track stuff with broad consensus but lagging impl is fine)

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 19 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @DavidBruant and

      When chrome adds new features, then relies on them in apps before there's even consensus to ship, usually something's really wrong.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 19 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @DavidBruant and

      Honestly at this point I trust the Chrome team more than the standards bodies that govern these features. Sad, but true.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 19 Oct 2017
      Replying to @AdamRackis @DavidBruant and

      I do not. Not even a little. 1. Chrome team > TC39? 😮 2. Chrome dominates WHATWG so doesn't make sense to differentiate.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 19 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @AdamRackis and

      Chrome dominating WHATWG is fud 😞

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    9. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 19 Oct 2017
      Replying to @matthewcp @wycats and

      It's fair to say we invest more in the web and in standards than anyone else. A choice others could easily match!

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    10. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 19 Oct 2017
      Replying to @slightlylate @wycats and

      Having a larger quantity of participants is not the same as having more *power*. Indeed, why others don't have more is a question for them.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 19 Oct 2017
      Replying to @matthewcp @slightlylate and

      In the WHATWG process, it does mean that. In other processes, not aways.

      1:58 PM - 19 Oct 2017
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        2. Domenic Denicola‏ @domenic 19 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @matthewcp and

          [citation needed], not true at all? Please quote me part of https://whatwg.org/working-mode  that you think supports this?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 19 Oct 2017
          Replying to @domenic @matthewcp and

          I don't want to argue with you on Twitter, per (quite reasonable) request.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 19 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @domenic and

          Charitably, I think I'm saying something non-controversial (tell me if I'm wrong): in the WHATWG process, "doing the work" is highly valued.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 19 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @domenic and

          I think it's very reasonable to dislike working modes where power is *not* correlated with doing work!

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Domenic Denicola‏ @domenic 19 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @matthewcp and

          I appreciate the clarification. I don't agree with the leap from "valued" to "having more power", but am happy to leave it for now.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 19 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @slightlylate and

          Other browser vendors squash Chrome ideas all the time. I'm not seeing more power.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 19 Oct 2017
          Replying to @matthewcp @slightlylate and

          You're not seeing more power? You don't think Google has more power than Mozilla? Really?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 19 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @slightlylate and

          I haven't seen them wield it when Mozilla reps are against a spec. And def no more power than Apple.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 19 Oct 2017
          Replying to @matthewcp @slightlylate and

          This is just wrong. I doubt most Googlers would disagree.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 19 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @slightlylate and

          What is wrong, the vague notion of "power" or that Apple and Mozilla have prevented Google ideas from being implemented?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 19 Oct 2017
          Replying to @matthewcp @slightlylate and

          "Power" is not a vague notion. Google has more active people working on standards, a shitton more money, and way more users.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 19 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @matthewcp and

          They obviously have more power. That isn't evil, but it's just true. I'm not sure why it's important for you to deny.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 19 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @slightlylate and

          Google the company of course. EME etc. Chrome team though, I don't see. Little old Mozilla killed html imports.

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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