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    1. Allen Wirfs-Brock‏ @awbjs 10 Oct 2017
      Replying to @BrendanEich @b0neskull and

      Code browsers supply the structure about the level of individual methods. extern src format not designed for human consumptionpic.twitter.com/tpJepor8ML

      3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    2.  👻 Pastel*Quil¹³  👻‏ @robotlolita 10 Oct 2017
      Replying to @awbjs @BrendanEich and

      It's quite sad that Smalltalk-style envs didn't win and we were left with editing text files in text editors instead :(

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    3. Stefan Tilkov‏ @stilkov 10 Oct 2017
      Replying to @robotlolita @awbjs and

      This continues to drive me crazy. The file-based approach won because it’s *better*. You can’t compete with the existing tooling for files.

      4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @stilkov @robotlolita and

      Indeed. "everything was better in the 60s" (or 80s, or 90s) ignores what sucked about those solutions.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    5.  👻 Pastel*Quil¹³  👻‏ @robotlolita 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @stilkov and

      I don't think anyone here ignores that there were problems with the Smalltalk approach, or is saying "everything was better back then"...

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @robotlolita @stilkov and

      I think the smalltalk approach failed on the merits. I don't want it today personally.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7.  👻 Pastel*Quil¹³  👻‏ @robotlolita 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @stilkov and

      You don't want what part of it? An image-based environment? I can agree with that. Immediate and rich feedback OTOH...

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @robotlolita @stilkov and

      Immediate feedback is great. But can be done without source stored in an image.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Allen Wirfs-Brock‏ @awbjs 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @robotlolita and

      None of the the Smalltalk systems designed for enterprise use depended upon source code stored in the image 1/

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    10. Allen Wirfs-Brock‏ @awbjs 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @awbjs @wycats and

      (even the original Xerox Smalltalk-80 release externally stored the user’s source code in a file) 2/

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @awbjs @robotlolita and

      It's problematic for Enterprise Smalltalk to work differently than littleco Smalltalk. Esp when ppl loved the image for deployment.

      12:44 PM - 11 Oct 2017
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        2. Allen Wirfs-Brock‏ @awbjs 11 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @robotlolita and

          It didn’t work differently. There still was an image and browser that work as expected. 1/

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        3. Allen Wirfs-Brock‏ @awbjs 11 Oct 2017
          Replying to @awbjs @wycats and

          It just formalized the management of the source code that had always been there and extended tools for team oriented work.

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