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    1. Feross  🧙🏼‍♂️ ✨‏ @feross 5 Oct 2017

      License Zero: a new "mostly open source" license that shifts the power balance toward maintainers so we can get paid https://writing.kemitchell.com/2017/09/12/The-License-Zero-Manifesto.html …

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    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 5 Oct 2017
      Replying to @feross

      What is the definition of "mostly open source"?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Feross  🧙🏼‍♂️ ✨‏ @feross 5 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      I made up the term. The idea is that non-commercial users get a BSD 2-clause license but commercial users pay small fee for a license.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Feross  🧙🏼‍♂️ ✨‏ @feross 5 Oct 2017
      Replying to @feross @wycats

      A CLI tool automates figuring out how much to pay / who to pay it to / produces a signed file as proof (in case of dispute later).

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Feross  🧙🏼‍♂️ ✨‏ @feross 5 Oct 2017
      Replying to @feross @wycats

      There is no DRM, nothing onerous. Clear prices/terms for commercial users. You can also grant free BSD-2 use to collaborators/friends easily

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 5 Oct 2017
      Replying to @feross

      I have no objection to this license existing, but: 1. Don't call it OSS. 2. I won't use it for my work. 3. I won't depend on it in my work.

      4 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    7. Dave Wasmer‏ @davewasmer 6 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @feross

      Really curious if you have an opinion on how to get paid for OSS w/ permissive licenses. Is it just “consult/train/etc”, or something else?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Oct 2017
      Replying to @davewasmer @feross

      For open source projects with enough usage for any model to work, a coalition of companies that each dedicate some headcount to the project.

      1 reply 3 retweets 2 likes
    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @davewasmer @feross

      In order for this to work, companies already have to be invested in the project, and non-permissive licenses work against that goal.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Oct 2017
      Replying to @wycats @davewasmer @feross

      1: I'd also add that OSS works better when contributors are working on (or closely with) real world applications of the OSS.

      8:46 AM - 6 Oct 2017
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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @davewasmer @feross

          2: So you get benefits from large apps dedicating headcount and staff time to improving the OSS they use.

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @davewasmer @feross

          3/3: And you don't need every company using the OSS to contribute back in order for this model to work.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @davewasmer @feross

          TLDR people drastically undercount the $ in existing allocated headcount when talking about the alleged "open source funding crisis"

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Dave Wasmer‏ @davewasmer 6 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @feross

          That approach seems viable - but also seems to let a lot of value generation go uncaptured. Not making an “it’s not fair” argument, but /1

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Dave Wasmer‏ @davewasmer 6 Oct 2017
          Replying to @davewasmer @wycats @feross

          from a purely economic standpoint, consumer surplus is huge here, and producer surplus is almost nil. For OSS author, you might be /1

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Dave Wasmer‏ @davewasmer 6 Oct 2017
          Replying to @davewasmer @wycats @feross

          creating huge value, but only capturing 9-5 salary for it. /3

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Oct 2017
          Replying to @davewasmer @feross

          I mean at this point we're really just discussing the normal consequences of capitalism.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Oct 2017
          Replying to @wycats @davewasmer @feross

          I really just don't see how the alternative models capture nearly as much value for the creators of OSS than the salary model.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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