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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Sep 2017

      Yehuda Katz  🥨 Retweeted Julian Maicher

      Is the Vue team seeing better performance from proxies as some articles suggests? /cc @youyuxihttps://twitter.com/jmaicher/status/910756164589191168 …

      Yehuda Katz  🥨 added,

      Julian Maicher @jmaicher
      Vue 3 will switch to ES2015 Proxies for change detection, dropping support for <= IE11 https://hashnode.com/ama/with-vuejs-team-cj7itlrki03ae62wuv2r2005s#cj7k5nd67003k7qwt1147975x … #vue
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    2. Evan You‏ @youyuxi 29 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      No material difference from preliminary testing, but it allows for easy lazy observation so helps with initial render perf

      2 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
    3. Wade Tandy‏ @wadetandy 29 Sep 2017
      Replying to @youyuxi @wycats

      What's the timing for the Vue 3 release & the Vue 2 support plan? We can't upgrade until ~2020 w/ Windows 7 is EOL. Maybe 2023 & Win8 EOL

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    4. Wade Tandy‏ @wadetandy 29 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wadetandy @youyuxi @wycats

      We literally just this week decided to move to Vue after a long process, but this has me seriously considering that choice now...

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wadetandy @youyuxi

      Do you need IE11 support or something older than that?

      7:32 AM - 29 Sep 2017
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        1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @wadetandy @youyuxi

          I'm specifically curious whether our reason for Ember browser support at https://github.com/emberjs/rfcs/blob/49e72790bdb1408371e76503ea46800bafefa651/text/0252-browser-support-changes.md … matches your experience

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        2. Diego Ferreiro Val‏ @diervo 29 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @wadetandy @youyuxi

          For IE11 things become even more challenging, specially to support observability in expandos. We are doing lot of transpilng to support it

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        3. Caridy Patiño‏ @caridy 29 Sep 2017
          Replying to @diervo @wycats and

          transpilation to support Proxies in old browsers is very challenging, specially when you need polyfills & helpers in the mix :/, but ...

          3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Sep 2017
          Replying to @caridy @diervo and

          It seems impossible...

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Wade Tandy‏ @wadetandy 29 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @caridy and

          Yeah as far as I'm aware that's a non-polyfill-able feature assuming you want to use the actual Proxy API.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Caridy Patiño‏ @caridy 29 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wadetandy @wycats and

          yes, we use a polyfill'd Proxy API on transpiled code! Again, compatibility over performance when running in those conditions.

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        7. Wade Tandy‏ @wadetandy 29 Sep 2017
          Replying to @caridy @wycats and

          Yeah I guess if you're transpiling from the proxy api to something with a ton of boilerplate & manual proxying it would work.

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        8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wadetandy @caridy and

          I'm surprised JS is fast enough so that transpiling every operation to the proxy protocol is fast enough.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Caridy Patiño‏ @caridy 29 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @wadetandy and

          me too! jajaja! operations: getKey, setKey, callKey, instanceOfOp, deleteKey, inOp, iterableOp, etc..., it is a lot of instrumentation.

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        2. Wade Tandy‏ @wadetandy 29 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @youyuxi

          IE11

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        3. Wade Tandy‏ @wadetandy 29 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wadetandy @wycats @youyuxi

          eg all desktop browser in the table of the first question here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/17454/lifecycle-faq-internet-explorer … for this EOL schedule: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet …

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        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wadetandy @youyuxi

          Ok cool. We were assuming we could get away with vendor support EOL. Glad to hear it's true.

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        5. Wade Tandy‏ @wadetandy 29 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @youyuxi

          Yeah the majority of our clients are either in government or work at BigDefenseCo or similar so we find this comports with common IT policy.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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