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    1. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 22 Sep 2017
      Replying to @tobie @wycats

      … plus a never tried in court possible implicit patent grant. Apache 2.0 would have been a lot clearer.

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    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Sep 2017
      Replying to @tobie

      I certainly would have preferred Apache 2. I'm very happy to be freed from a possible entanglement in a future patent lawsuit involving FB

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    3. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 22 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      I don't see how you're freed from that. This is 🙈🙉 strategy. Those patents, if they exist, still do.

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    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Sep 2017
      Replying to @tobie

      Read the MIT license again. Permission is hereby granted to use without restriction. How you gonna win that lawsuit.

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    5. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 22 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      Most patent disputes don't go to court.

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    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Sep 2017
      Replying to @tobie

      You're worried, concretely, that Facebook's gonna sue a React user for patent infringement & get a settlement they wouldn't get w/ PATENTS?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @tobie

      Permission is hereby granted to use without restriction... What are you thinking is the loophole?

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    8. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 22 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      IANAL

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    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Sep 2017
      Replying to @tobie

      Seems legit. Then I think we're good.

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    10. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 22 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      Well, you're much more confident about what the MIT license implies than any of the IP lawyers I ever talked to.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Sep 2017
      Replying to @tobie

      Wait, what happened to IANAL. Why do you feel so confident about PATENTS. That's pretty untested too (and very strange, uncharted)

      4:29 PM - 22 Sep 2017
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        2. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 22 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats

          It is pretty explicit, though. Unlike MIT which isn't.

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        3. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 22 Sep 2017
          Replying to @tobie @wycats

          Not particularly strange or uncharted. This is similar text (albeit different conditions) as you find in Apache or W3C.

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        4. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 22 Sep 2017
          Replying to @tobie @wycats

          E.g.: https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20040205/#sec-Requirements …

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        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Sep 2017
          Replying to @tobie

          Not that similar. But again, "right to use unrestricted" is pretty explicit. Can you find any precedent at all that says otherwise?

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        6. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 22 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats

          Again. I'm just channeling what IP lawyers have told me in the past.

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        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Sep 2017
          Replying to @tobie

          Fair enough.

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