3/Problem: v. expensive system (schools pay neutral panelists, invr's, lawyers for those who can't afford). But at least tries to be fair.
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2nd, & more impt: easy to avoid this concern (which I share): allow acc'd student to have a lawyer, and let lawyer ask Q's.
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Ok, fair. I wonder why the new guidelines don't. For me (not deeply immersed), it generally seems problematic to have "cops or GTFO" policy
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Depends on the punishment. Involving cops if the punishment is an apology seems not necessary. Not everyone in a position to deal w/ CJ sys
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To state a (probably obvious) point, if we crack down on undocumented immigrants via cops, what now?
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Correct. But the big difference here is we're already speaking of a felony in all 50 states.
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Still: law enf. has tools to determine truth colleges don't. So if goal is->truth, then college system at least has to try to replicate.
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Classic examples here are cases like Amherst (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/campus-sexual-assault-policies-are-unfair-to-the-accused-this-case-shows-how/2017/08/16/2ab6781e-7de0-11e7-a669-b400c5c7e1cc_story.html?utm_term=.2f33e9c23054 …), where college's inability to subpoena ensured that truth was hidden.
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I think it makes sense to take felonies to the cops, but if the ppl advocating that also want to throw victims in jail if they're ...
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... undocumented, we just don't have a coherent policy. And how we talk about adjudicatory policy affects non-adjudicatory policy.
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Replying to @wycats @kcjohnson9
I guess I'm not saying anything new or particularly insightful. Partisan rancor sucks and as always makes the debate suck.
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Wholly on the undocumented point. (Also applies to other marginalized groups--esp trans students & in some cases students of color.)
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