3/Problem: v. expensive system (schools pay neutral panelists, invr's, lawyers for those who can't afford). But at least tries to be fair.
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2nd, & more impt: easy to avoid this concern (which I share): allow acc'd student to have a lawyer, and let lawyer ask Q's.
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Ok, fair. I wonder why the new guidelines don't. For me (not deeply immersed), it generally seems problematic to have "cops or GTFO" policy
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Depends on the punishment. Involving cops if the punishment is an apology seems not necessary. Not everyone in a position to deal w/ CJ sys
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Two add'l options at that point: 1) Mary Koss (among others) has championed idea of restoratuve justice: http://www.skidmore.edu/campusrj/karp-vitae-files/media/The-lonely-quest-of-Mary-Koss.pdf …
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Approach avoids worst effects of the current system (schools can wrongly brand student a rapist). Problem: forbidden by 1997 OCR guidance.
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2) Nothing in current debate envisions rollback of existing *non-adjudicatory* accommodations (academic, housing, counseling, medical, etc.)
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The tone of the debate matters somewhat. You tend to be nuanced but whether someone believes "rapes are rare on campus" affects what happens
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And I think it's relevant that "police or GTFO" is often used in the real world to say "I don't believe you if you won't go to the cops"
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That doesn't mean we should brand people w/o due process (multiple cases show the folly of that) but CJ as rhetorical panacea has effects.
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