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    1. Robin Berjon‏ @robinberjon 18 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @BrendanEich and

      The question I would ask is if it's a no-brainer why does it need the W3C to make it happen?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Sep 2017
      Replying to @robinberjon @BrendanEich and

      the reason it needs the W3C is that *the W3C is creating the circumventable technology*. Rarely do you get get the chance.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Robin Berjon‏ @robinberjon 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @BrendanEich and

      That doesn't require it to be at W3C. Nothing prevents a community-driven covenant.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @robinberjon @wycats and

      Covenant needs to bind the same W3C members who give up EME IPR via patent process, so it must be administered by W3C. Not optional on side.

      2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    5. Robin Berjon‏ @robinberjon 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @BrendanEich @wycats and

      No. That's the optimal option, but not the only one. Nothing prevents a separate operation to drive signatures.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @robinberjon @wycats and

      Ignores the leverage that W3C has on Its members, which it uses to get patent covenants, on which its moral authority (diminished) depends.

      2 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
    7. Robin Berjon‏ @robinberjon 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @BrendanEich @wycats and

      Clearly that purported leverage is not enough. The options are to try something or give up.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @robinberjon @wycats and

      Are you trolling now? We have no leverage. W3C had it and failed, up to the Director, to use it. What leverage now, harsh language?

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @BrendanEich @robinberjon and

      Your "purported" implies W3C is some passive bystander, a victim of its members' wills. Not so: the Appeal was avoidable.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @BrendanEich @robinberjon and

      "Tim Berners-Lee rejected this covenant proposal." https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170712/10262037770/eff-officially-appeals-tim-berners-lee-decision-drm-html.shtml … Entirely avoidable appeal, TBL could have ruled for compromise.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @BrendanEich @robinberjon and

      The fact that TBL had the ability to "rule" at all shows an alleged consensus process run completely amok. W3C shouldn't be a monarchy.

      7:49 AM - 19 Sep 2017
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        2. Robin Berjon‏ @robinberjon 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @BrendanEich and

          You discover now that the Benevolent Dictatorship model has issues?

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @robinberjon @BrendanEich and

          Just because the Director formally has power doesn't mean he needs to exercise it. For something this controversial it's a huge error.

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        1. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @robinberjon and

          There is always a place where the consensus-failed buck stops. In this case the Director's desk.

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