Would like to understand better how Oracle vs Google situation could potentially apply to react. Facebook isn't seeking licensing fees?
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Google uses React in web app. Google sues Facebook for patent infringement in Oculus hardware. FB sues Google over React patents.
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Google uses React in web app. Google acquires company involved in a medical device patent lawsuit with FB. FB sues Google over React patents
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Thanks! Great examples.
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The point in my article, though was: Google contributes patches to React. Facebook sues Google for patent infringement. Facebook is fine.
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Google sues Facebook for unrelated patent infringement (hardware, say). Now Google can be sued simply for using react.
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So the clause blocks Google from suing Facebook for any patent reason but not vice versa. This is bad.
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Thing is, if React was Berkeley licensed, no one would be complaining, and FB could use relevant patents to sue anyone at any time at all.
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Thanks for thoughtful criticism! That’s a really good point and I’ll mention that in future internal conversations.
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Maybe it’s worth bringing up that to this day, Facebook has never sued another party except in defence. But still, agree with your point.
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It's not when everything goes well that companies tend to abuse patents. It's when the business is failing and they grasp for every straw...
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Let’s be clear: the patent grant is *not* revoked if FB sues you for patents first. It says so explicitly in the grant.
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Right, but the point of the revocation clause is to discourage bad behavior, and FB is not punished for the lawsuit.
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Yes. I understand it’s a subtle point but I feel like most readers will miss it.
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It's more or less the point of my post. The revocation is where the incentives come from. FB is immune from the incentives of React license.
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FB goes Apache when they risk being replaced (RocksDB), any web+mobile options to React+React Native or are all other frameworks web-only?
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Angular has a native thing no?
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Ah, maybe React goes Apache if Angular regains popularity, but haven't seen mobile support in libs with easier migrations (Preact/Inferno)
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We'll see if WordPress's intended move to Preact or Vuejs will encourage Facebook to reconsider React licensinghttps://ma.tt/2017/09/on-react-and-wordpress/amp/ …
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