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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @mjackson @xander76

      React PATENTS is a blanket wall protecting *all* patents held by Facebook, but none by other contribs.

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    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @mjackson @xander76

      Apache protects the OSS software from patent infringement suits and applies to all IP incorporated in it.

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    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @mjackson @xander76

      in other words, and this is important: Apache is about protecting the open source project from suits. PATENTS is about protecting Facebook.

      2 replies 4 retweets 14 likes
    4. Sasha Aickin‏ @xander76 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @mjackson

      So, now I'm genuinely confused. You've convinced me that a license that applies to all contributors equally would be more morally correct 1/

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    5. Sasha Aickin‏ @xander76 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @xander76 @wycats @mjackson

      The thing that confuses me is that patents' default is that they are protected. The licenses in question (FB, Apache) *tear down* those 2/

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    6. Sasha Aickin‏ @xander76 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @xander76 @wycats @mjackson

      protections (subject to revocation under certain circumstances). So it's more like FB is a blanket *hole* in the wall for 1 contributor 3/

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    7. Sasha Aickin‏ @xander76 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @xander76 @wycats @mjackson

      whereas Apache is a blanket hole in the wall for all contributors. I feel like I probably am misunderstanding your argument, tho. 4/4

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    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @xander76 @mjackson

      1: The point of Apache is to protect users of the OSS from lawsuits by other users by making *all* patents incorporated into the OSSpic.twitter.com/C3lTIwwt0t

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    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @xander76 @mjackson

      2: subject to revocation if a user sues *anyone* using the OSS for patent infringement. It is important that it covers all of the patents,

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    10. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @xander76 @mjackson

      3: because its goal is to protect *users*. In contrast, the Facebook license is about protecting *Facebook*, so it protects

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @xander76 @mjackson

      4: lawsuits against *any* Facebook patent (related or otherwise) and *no* patents from other contribs.

      11:19 AM - 16 Sep 2017
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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @xander76 @mjackson

          5/5: it's not a technical difference. It's a difference of goal.

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        3. Sasha Aickin‏ @xander76 16 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @mjackson

          🙏 , helps me understand. Clarifying q: if FB deleted PATENTS tomorrow, do you agree FB would have strictly more legal rights than today?

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