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    1. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @AdamRackis @wycats @dan_abramov

      (except for Ember 😅 - somehow you all manage to build a first-rate framework without corporate ownership 👏👍)

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @AdamRackis @dan_abramov

      Ember, Rails, Postgres, Rust, jQuery

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @AdamRackis @dan_abramov

      A lead corporation doesn't necessarily mean there isn't a broad group of contributors per your original tweet.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @AdamRackis @dan_abramov

      It's more about where the decision power comes from. Can you imagine a Rust RFC that added PATENTS to rust?

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    5. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @dan_abramov

      True also for Vue. From what I understand though React's is LESS dangerous than anything else from a major corp like Google or MS.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @AdamRackis @wycats @dan_abramov

      I'd be fine if framed as big corps vs independent devs ie Vue or Ember. But you were using React's uniqueness as de facto evidence of guilt

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @AdamRackis @dan_abramov

      PATENTS is a uniquely bad patent license.

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    8. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @dan_abramov

      What license does Google and MS attach to their frameworks, to protect us from *their* patent arsenals?

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    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @AdamRackis @dan_abramov

      Seriously casting this as a benevolent act by Facebook is silly and I wish you'd stop doing it.

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    10. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @dan_abramov

      Not benevolent, just less bad compared to what exists with the other big co's; I wish all software patents would die.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
      Replying to @AdamRackis @dan_abramov

      Being overt with PATENTS is in many ways worse. Unilateral licensing terms in OSS is bad news.

      9:31 AM - 16 Sep 2017
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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @AdamRackis @dan_abramov

          For example Android uses Apache. I'd have to do work to compile a list.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 16 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @dan_abramov

          What about Angular, Polymer, TypeScript?

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        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
          Replying to @AdamRackis @dan_abramov

          TypeScript is Apache. Polymer and Angular are MIT. None have any unilateral clauses in their licenses.

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        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @AdamRackis @dan_abramov

          I'd certainly be open to a campaign to encourage more frameworks to do Apache over MIT. But overt unilateral terms are something else.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 16 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @dan_abramov

          I wish the specific, object effects of this, vs what exists with other big co's (G, MS, etc) was explored and better articulated.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 16 Sep 2017
          Replying to @AdamRackis @wycats @dan_abramov

          I'm much less interested in surmising who thought about what & what's "better for OSS" than how this affects us *compared to alternatives*

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        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Sep 2017
          Replying to @AdamRackis @dan_abramov

          One alternative is being less blase about becoming dependent on BigCo software, especially projects that double down on unilateral decisions

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