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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @tarasm and

      Allegedly ember apps are too slow and have state flying everywhere. For a given size, ember competes very well there.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @tarasm and

      But people compare ember with hello world and conclude it's too slow. They compare Ember Data with a one screen redux app.

      1 reply 2 retweets 8 likes
    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @tarasm and

      Nobody wants to hear about boring stuff like block params, which help a lot with real apps and have no clear analogue in React.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @tarasm and

      Nobody wants to talk about the things we do in our add-on system that makes our ecosystem compose well over the long haul.

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @tarasm and

      I wish the answer was just talk about it more. And maybe I do underestimate that. But honestly front-end JS doesn't want to hear it

      1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @tarasm and

      They want to hear about the next silver bullet that will solve all your problems. And block params, add-ons and semver ain't that.

      5 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    7. Taras Mankovski‏ @tarasm 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @oligriffiths and

      My experience has been different. In absence of useful information people revert to hype.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @tarasm @oligriffiths and

      What kind of useful information are you thinking about.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Taras Mankovski‏ @tarasm 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @wycats @oligriffiths and

      Same for Torri authentication, educate people on architecture to prepare them mentally for Ember.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Taras Mankovski‏ @tarasm 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @tarasm @wycats and

      Explain the architecture of Ember Data and what problems it solves and how.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @tarasm @oligriffiths and

      I can believe we could be doing this better and it would help. I have a talk in a few weeks. Why should I focus on?

      7:56 PM - 2 Sep 2017
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        2. Taras Mankovski‏ @tarasm 2 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @oligriffiths and

          It might be better to train a few embassitors with 3-4 more junior talks that would appeal to JS community and have them apply at every conf

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        3. Señor Saudades‏ @cdiddy42 2 Sep 2017
          Replying to @tarasm @wycats and

          I would agree. Need to initiate next wave and give them opportunity to thrive in what is now often considered Senior dev land

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        4. Señor Saudades‏ @cdiddy42 2 Sep 2017
          Replying to @cdiddy42 @tarasm and

          I think the core needs to answer this question better:"I've invested xx hours in this framework, why should I tackle ember?"

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Señor Saudades‏ @cdiddy42 2 Sep 2017
          Replying to @cdiddy42 @tarasm and

          I.e. What does ember give me that react 16 won't?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 2 Sep 2017
          Replying to @cdiddy42 @tarasm and

          Indeed! 1: - build tools that work out of the box - a built in sophisticated router

          3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 2 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @cdiddy42 and

          2: - a focus on avoiding breaking changes (drop in upgrades) - community governance - regular release cadence (w/ LTS if you want it)

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        8. Taras Mankovski‏ @tarasm 2 Sep 2017
          Replying to @wycats @cdiddy42 and

          Also mention what both offer that's same, because most people don't realize how similar the surface view layer is

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 2 Sep 2017
          Replying to @tarasm @cdiddy42 and

          Yeah. Also people don't realize there are ways in which the composition model in Ember is more sophisticated (block params for example)

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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