I've noticed that a lot of programming language surveys just leave off Ruby, which means it's often missing from lists it should be on.
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that is odd, it’s right in the middle of top 20 https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
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pypl also keeps it in the middle http://pypl.github.io/PYPL.html … looks like StackOverflow and others are just biased and of almost no value
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I don't trust TIOBE but surveys that literally don't have ruby anywhere at all are just broken.
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i concur; just looking at rando marketing lists to get a sense of pop culture
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Yeah. Same.
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maybe they're mad at Sam and Jeff for leaving them over Discourse
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Hahah you're right. The entire discourse stack is invisible in those surveys.

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