You also need SSR at the primitive layer so apps built on a framework get SSR without jumping through millions of hoops.
Yes. (big fan of @danariely). But that doesn't mean slow apps w/ spinner preferable to fast apps w/ indicator.
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spinner was never on the table (ew, vomit). i'm arguing for nice ui, progress bar toolkit as a stopgap until fast apps are ubiquitous.
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Quick content, dimmed second tier interactive elements feels nicer to me, but I'd also love studies
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i also want studies, but i'd settle for recommendations on easy progressive enhancement tooling
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