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    1. Addy Osmani‏Verified account @addyosmani 26 Aug 2017
      Replying to @samccone @HenrikJoreteg and

      There have been a few VDOM/diffing proposals kicked around over the last few years. Haven't seen a proper spec fleshed out, but would <3 to.

      3 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
    2. Eduardo Lundgren‏ @eduardolundgren 26 Aug 2017
      Replying to @addyosmani @samccone and

      Incremental dom diffing is a good start for a proposal. Would love to see something like it in the browsers.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Addy Osmani‏Verified account @addyosmani 26 Aug 2017
      Replying to @eduardolundgren @samccone and

      Indeed. I feel like @trueadm may have had thoughts on this before. @_jayphelps also published https://medium.com/@jayphelps/lazydom-an-experiment-to-bring-virtual-dom-to-the-browser-natively-6a2f47096aca … last year.

      1 reply 5 retweets 39 likes
    4. Sean Thomas Larkin (肖恩)‏ @TheLarkInn 26 Aug 2017
      Replying to @addyosmani @eduardolundgren and

      @_developit has some ideas also :)

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    5. Jay Phelps‏ @_jayphelps 26 Aug 2017
      Replying to @TheLarkInn @addyosmani and

      Lock us all in a room and don't let us out until the DOM has VDOM

      1 reply 1 retweet 48 likes
    6. Jason Miller  🦊 ⚛‏ @_developit 26 Aug 2017
      Replying to @_jayphelps @TheLarkInn and

      Come on boffins!https://youtu.be/5A8CDJaQCqo 

      1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
    7. Justin Fagnani‏ @justinfagnani 26 Aug 2017
      Replying to @_developit @_jayphelps and

      I don't think VDOM as it's most commonly implemented is a very good model to add. It doesn't make a distinction between static and dynamic.

      4 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 26 Aug 2017
      Replying to @justinfagnani @_developit and

      Can confirm. This makes it a nonstarter for Glimmer too. VDOM is an implementation detail not a programming model.

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    9. Sean Thomas Larkin (肖恩)‏ @TheLarkInn 26 Aug 2017
      Replying to @wycats @justinfagnani and

      Could the diffing primitive could be used in bytecode vm that glimmer uses?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 26 Aug 2017
      Replying to @TheLarkInn @wycats and

      The reason bytecode is useful is because it is more specific than diffing. If you have to diff anyway you’ve lost benefits of bytecode.

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 26 Aug 2017
      Replying to @dan_abramov @TheLarkInn and

      Right. We have an update program we run that avoids the need to ever diff except at the string level (attribute value, text node)

      4:09 PM - 26 Aug 2017
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        2. Dominic Gannaway‏ @trueadm 26 Aug 2017
          Replying to @wycats @dan_abramov and

          That's what I've been experimenting on too in regards to React. Admittedly it's way harder to do with React, as we have to evaluate raw JS.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 26 Aug 2017
          Replying to @trueadm @dan_abramov and

          It's worth exploring in react but much harder to get right because it's hard to enforce restrictions in "just js"

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        4. Justin Fagnani‏ @justinfagnani 26 Aug 2017
          Replying to @wycats @trueadm and

          Not really... template literals just do that for you

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 26 Aug 2017
          Replying to @justinfagnani @trueadm and

          JSX is not the same thing as template literals. And stitching together JS loops / conditionals with templates also doesn't work.

          3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        6. Sean Thomas Larkin (肖恩)‏ @TheLarkInn 26 Aug 2017
          Replying to @wycats @justinfagnani and

          It does with statically analyzable tokens and expressions passed to them (aka Vue/angular directives)

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 26 Aug 2017
          Replying to @TheLarkInn @justinfagnani and

          Yes, if you eliminate the "just JS" part and add conditionals and loops to the template language, it works.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Sean Thomas Larkin (肖恩)‏ @TheLarkInn 26 Aug 2017
          Replying to @wycats @justinfagnani and

          I also think jsx has some very powerful composition tech. So using both interchangably is very very nice. (Like pure/func to assign props)

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 26 Aug 2017
          Replying to @TheLarkInn @justinfagnani and

          The powerful composition comes from functions. Which a good template language can have.

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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