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    1. Malte Ubl, Immigrant‏Verified account @cramforce 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @seldo @wycats @littlecalculist

      Whether AMP is used in the Google Search product is an independent discussion. Tweeting me is probably the best you can do.

      2 replies 2 retweets 1 like
    2. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @cramforce @wycats @littlecalculist

      The idea that AMP exists separately to its existence as a way of getting top ranking in Google Search seems kind of disingenuous to me.

      2 replies 6 retweets 40 likes
    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @seldo @cramforce @littlecalculist

      "kind of" is being a little too polite.

      1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @wycats @seldo and

      1/ @cramforce if you want to compete on an equal playing field, ask Google search to remove any privileged behavior for AMP:

      1 reply 2 retweets 20 likes
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @wycats @seldo and

      2/ no "instant" behavior that requires hardcoding AMP into Google search. no special badges.

      1 reply 1 retweet 15 likes
    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @wycats @seldo and

      3/ let AMP compete purely on the basis of a performance metric that isn't juiced by special privileged behavior.

      2 replies 1 retweet 33 likes
    7. Domenic Denicola‏ @domenic 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @wycats @seldo and

      My favorite is when they say "no influence on search rankings" ... except a carousel above all the top search results.

      2 replies 3 retweets 26 likes
    8. Malte Ubl, Immigrant‏Verified account @cramforce 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @domenic @wycats and

      - the carousel doesn't always rank at 1 - the carousel is news specific (small subset of AMP pages, most aren't eligible)

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Malte Ubl, Immigrant‏Verified account @cramforce 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @cramforce @domenic and

      Yes, it does provide screen real estate, but also features that cannot be achieved without AMP such as fast swiping between results.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @cramforce @domenic and

      But you earlier said that there's no point in standardizing AMP because the primitives already exist. This is a counterexample.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @wycats @cramforce and

      Yehuda Katz  🥨 Retweeted Malte Ubl, Immigrant

      https://twitter.com/cramforce/status/900794363172724736 … The deep coupling between Google Search and AMP is allowing you to miss obvious missing primitives in good faith.

      Yehuda Katz  🥨 added,

      Malte Ubl, ImmigrantVerified account @cramforce
      Replying to @wycats
      Work is ongoing actually. The problem is that we keep getting stuck and say: If AMP doesn’t need primitives, do we need to do anything?
      4:14 PM - 24 Aug 2017
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Malte Ubl, Immigrant‏Verified account @cramforce 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @wycats @domenic and

          The process is under way. I'm not sure it will yield something that people want, but I'm hopeful.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @cramforce @domenic and

          The process is under way in public? Or internal to Google?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Malte Ubl, Immigrant‏Verified account @cramforce 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @wycats @domenic and

          Feature policy is the direct outcome of the work. Trying to push for stateless prefetch.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Malte Ubl, Immigrant‏Verified account @cramforce 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @cramforce @wycats and

          Needless to say, I want to use all these things in AMP, so I can delete a bunch of code.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @cramforce @domenic and

          I think it's not an understatement to say that many people would LOVE to see a standard solution to the search page problem.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @wycats @cramforce and

          Lots of people would love to help too. Is there a reason the preliminary work needs to happen inside Google?

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Paul Bakaus‏ @pbakaus 25 Aug 2017
          Replying to @wycats @cramforce and

          where are these lots of people? Would love to meet them. Have been calling out for contributors for months.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 25 Aug 2017
          Replying to @pbakaus @cramforce and

          The lots of people don't want to work on AMP, but rather standards work that would make Google Search uncoupled from AMP.

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
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