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    1. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo 23 Aug 2017
      Replying to @seldo

      Apple thinks really carefully about adding features to its operating system, so imagine how many senior people must hate AMP to do this.

      2 replies 5 retweets 43 likes
    2. Malte Ubl, Immigrant‏Verified account @cramforce 23 Aug 2017
      Replying to @seldo

      I personally asked for this feature. I have also asked all other browser vendors, of course.

      2 replies 7 retweets 46 likes
    3. Malte Ubl, Immigrant‏Verified account @cramforce 23 Aug 2017
      Replying to @cramforce @seldo

      No, our policy is that AMP platforms should share the canonical URL when technically possible.

      3 replies 1 retweet 27 likes
    4. Malte Ubl, Immigrant‏Verified account @cramforce 23 Aug 2017
      Replying to @cramforce @seldo

      This makes it technically possible. I’m advocating for a more general solution, but I’ll take the hack for now :)

      1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
    5. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo 23 Aug 2017
      Replying to @cramforce

      You know I have all the respect in the world for you personally, but I continue to think AMP is un-weblike and a bad idea.

      4 replies 1 retweet 57 likes
    6. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo 23 Aug 2017
      Replying to @seldo @cramforce

      Persuading all browsers in the world to adapt to a format a single company invented and maintains for its own benefit is like 1990s Msft.

      2 replies 1 retweet 47 likes
    7. Malte Ubl, Immigrant‏Verified account @cramforce 23 Aug 2017
      Replying to @seldo

      How is that happening? AMP renders in every browser. My proposal was to allow customizing share URLs. Generally useful.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Aug 2017
      Replying to @cramforce @seldo

      The issue is that the spec of supported web components is maintained and decided almost exclusively by Google.

      3 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    9. Malte Ubl, Immigrant‏Verified account @cramforce 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @wycats @seldo

      This is an easy point to make, but have you actually experienced the process?https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/blob/master/contributing/design-reviews.md …

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Malte Ubl, Immigrant‏Verified account @cramforce 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @cramforce @wycats @seldo

      Yes, we have a BDFL model. I’m open to changing it, but the request has to come from members of the community not random internet people.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @cramforce @seldo

      It just means that the claim that "amp renders in every browser" is missing the most important issue.

      8:16 AM - 24 Aug 2017
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        2. Malte Ubl, Immigrant‏Verified account @cramforce 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @wycats @seldo

          It is a key distinction from tech like WAP.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @cramforce @seldo

          But it's not a key distinction from 90s MSFT, which for example openwashed OOXML.

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @wycats @cramforce @seldo

          Bottom line is that I think it's reasonable to believe that the current structure is not a good fit for a web standard.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @wycats @cramforce @seldo

          It's also reasonable to believe that the reason for AMP's nominal success is anticompetitive use of Google's search dominance.

          2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
        6. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @wycats @cramforce

          I definitely feel like Google is cramming this down my throat, but "anticompetitive" implies competition to solve whatever it is AMP solves.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @seldo @cramforce

          What I mean is that Google search is a monopoly, and they're abusing the monopoly to force publishers to use it.

          0 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @wycats @cramforce @seldo

          Random internet people are interested in who makes the spec for "the web". You've found a hack where the answer is "Google"

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @wycats @cramforce @seldo

          Yehuda Katz  🥨 Retweeted Malte Ubl, Immigrant

          Random internet people are allowed to have a problem with that and reject this response to the critique.https://twitter.com/cramforce/status/900555298397487104 …

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          Malte Ubl, ImmigrantVerified account @cramforce
          Replying to @seldo
          How is that happening? AMP renders in every browser. My proposal was to allow customizing share URLs. Generally useful.
          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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