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    Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Aug 2017

    World: Monoliths suck. Later: Monoliths are fiiiine but not at Google or Facebook scale. Megacorps: We love our monorepos!

    8:44 AM - 14 Aug 2017
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      2. mamadero‏ @mamadero 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @wycats

        Monoliths != monorepo

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      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @mamadero

        A monorepo is a setup where all dependencies across the whole company are revved in lockstep. Sure sounds like what ppl hate abt Monoliths.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4. mamadero‏ @mamadero 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @wycats

        For us default, but optional lockstep is one of the key reasons we favor it over a single app or tiny repos.

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      5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @mamadero

        What is the definition of "a single app"? Process isolation boundaries?

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      6. mamadero‏ @mamadero 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @wycats

        1/2 Fair point. I guess I have never seen monoliths provide good isolation internally. That said monorepos are too new for me and mostly

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      7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @mamadero

        On the flip side, I've never seen microservices provide good system-wide coordination for errors, single source of truth on data.

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      8. mamadero‏ @mamadero 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @wycats

        We had to build a system for that, still more to do but useful. https://engineering.zenefits.com/2016/03/duplo-aws-orchestration-container-management-and-paas-for-microservices/ …

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      9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @mamadero

        Right, but many monolithic apps have internally tried to solve the modularity issue.

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      1. sMyle‏Verified account @MylesBorins 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @wycats

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      2. λ Sven . Sauleau‏ @svensauleau 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @wycats

        monorepos generally means composable monoliths, which are the bests IMO.

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      3. Maliech‏ @maliech 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @svensauleau @wycats

        Do you have some pointers/info how to organize it that way

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      4. λ Sven . Sauleau‏ @svensauleau 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @maliech @wycats

        You mean a monorepo or a modular monolith?

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      5. Maliech‏ @maliech 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @svensauleau @wycats

        trying to understand how to set up a usable mono repo for our rails app + components. Hard to find good info. Was triggered by your words

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      6. Maliech‏ @maliech 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @maliech @svensauleau @wycats

        Composable monolith in a mono repo sounds what i want

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      7. Maliech‏ @maliech 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @maliech @svensauleau @wycats

        Was hoping you have experience or extra info :)

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      8. λ Sven . Sauleau‏ @svensauleau 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @maliech @wycats

        Don't know for Ruby, I can only give you pointers in JavaScript.To build a modular monolith you'll need a way to communicate between modules

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      9. λ Sven . Sauleau‏ @svensauleau 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @svensauleau @maliech @wycats

        You can use an event bus, this way your modules are not coupled.

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      1. Taka Kojima‏ @gigafied 14 Aug 2017
        Replying to @wycats

        Monorepos are mostly used for dependency reasons, not deploy/build. Some platforms don't have NPM/Gradle, etc or it's not worth the overhead

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