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    1. Zoltan Kochan  🇺🇦 🇭🇺‏ @ZoltanKochan 6 Jun 2017
      Replying to @PipoPeperoni @wycats

      Good explanation from @izs why the .lock extension is a bad idea https://github.com/npm/npm/pull/16441#issuecomment-305824520 …pic.twitter.com/NEbG1tqh8D

      2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Jun 2017
      Replying to @ZoltanKochan @PipoPeperoni @izs

      This is a thing people get very convinced is a huge deal breaker that has virtually no real negative consequences in the real world.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. isaacspooky  💙 💜 💖 🏳️‍🌈‏Verified account @izs 6 Jun 2017
      Replying to @wycats @ZoltanKochan @PipoPeperoni

      It's just a bikeshed. Call it "xyz.fooblz" and it'd be fine, as long as it's communicated well enough to become a community idiom.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. isaacspooky  💙 💜 💖 🏳️‍🌈‏Verified account @izs 6 Jun 2017
      Replying to @izs @wycats and

      Words are just tokens in the language game. Semantics are the outcome of the moves in that game. They come from the players, not the pieces.

      1 reply 3 retweets 1 like
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Jun 2017
      Replying to @izs @ZoltanKochan @PipoPeperoni

      And .lock is a hugely popular, cross-language idiom for package management. ;)

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. isaacspooky  💙 💜 💖 🏳️‍🌈‏Verified account @izs 6 Jun 2017
      Replying to @wycats @ZoltanKochan @PipoPeperoni

      Other than rubygems and package managers you wrote?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. isaacspooky  💙 💜 💖 🏳️‍🌈‏Verified account @izs 6 Jun 2017
      Replying to @izs @wycats and

      Don't get me wrong, you're hugely influential. But so are maven, pear, cpan, nuget, npm, et al, where *.lock means "fs mutex"

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. isaacspooky  💙 💜 💖 🏳️‍🌈‏Verified account @izs 6 Jun 2017
      Replying to @izs @wycats and

      Ah! Composer uses a .lock file, as well.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Jun 2017
      Replying to @izs @ZoltanKochan @PipoPeperoni

      Also pub, cocoapods. It's not limited to package managers I personally had a direct hand in.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Jun 2017
      Replying to @wycats @izs and

      I don't feel strongly about it because it was my idea (I admit that it was arbitrary initially) but at this point it's the dominant idiom.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 6 Jun 2017
      Replying to @wycats @izs and

      Further evidence: even in package managers that don't use the .lock extension, people use the term "lock file".

      10:48 PM - 6 Jun 2017
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        2. isaacspooky  💙 💜 💖 🏳️‍🌈‏Verified account @izs 6 Jun 2017
          Replying to @wycats @ZoltanKochan @PipoPeperoni

          People also use "lock file" to mean fs mutexes http://search.cpan.org/search?query=lock+file&mode=all … https://www.npmjs.com/search?q=lock%20file …

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. isaacspooky  💙 💜 💖 🏳️‍🌈‏Verified account @izs 6 Jun 2017
          Replying to @izs @wycats and

          I'm just saying, having interacted with file systems a lot, *.lock says to me "this is a fs mutex". Process hung, or left litter behind.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        4. Donald Stufft‏ @dstufft 6 Jun 2017
          Replying to @izs @wycats and

          Fwiw when pip gets lockfile support we intend to use the .lock extension.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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