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    1. Satyajit Sahoo‏ @satya164 10 May 2017
      Replying to @bradleymeck @xjamundx @wycats

      We write universal code now-a-days :D Yeah, we can definitely rename, and configure tools. But if it's not really necessary, why do that

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Jamund Ferguson‏ @xjamundx 10 May 2017
      Replying to @satya164 @bradleymeck @wycats

      Configure tools is literally like flipping a config param. Takes seconds...

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 10 May 2017
      Replying to @xjamundx @satya164 @bradleymeck

      Submitting PRs to every project like pygments, GitHub, highlight.js, prism, etc etc takes more than seconds.

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Jamund Ferguson‏ @xjamundx 10 May 2017
      Replying to @wycats @satya164 @bradleymeck

      Same amount of time as the "use module" PR right?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Satyajit Sahoo‏ @satya164 10 May 2017
      Replying to @xjamundx @wycats @bradleymeck

      No, it's about sending PR to support a new extension, not convert them to ES modules

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Satyajit Sahoo‏ @satya164 10 May 2017
      Replying to @satya164 @xjamundx and

      Tools already support the .js extension, prism.js will still highlight the file correctly without any configuration for example

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Jamund Ferguson‏ @xjamundx 10 May 2017
      Replying to @satya164 @wycats @bradleymeck

      There is eco-system cost and developer cost. I'd say with mjs they are both quite small. Not hearing strong arguments against IMO

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 10 May 2017
      Replying to @xjamundx @satya164 @bradleymeck

      The cost is small per incident but widespread. And we're imposing it. Why?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 10 May 2017
      Replying to @wycats @xjamundx @satya164

      Because there is a path here that doesnt impose problems for .js (people could userland "use module" or parse guess) and

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 10 May 2017
      Replying to @bradleymeck @wycats and

      The solution doesnt leave tech debt like package json. Doesnt have scaling problems if 3rd mode appears. Is web compatible. And

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 10 May 2017
      Replying to @bradleymeck @xjamundx @satya164

      "main" -> "module" doesn't leave tech debt more than .js and .mjs. What do you mean?

      7:51 PM - 10 May 2017
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        2. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 10 May 2017
          Replying to @wycats @xjamundx @satya164

          With .mjs you could reach a world without any .js for package you have this odd residual dangerous key.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Jamund Ferguson‏ @xjamundx 10 May 2017
          Replying to @bradleymeck @wycats @satya164

          Seems like at that point we declare bankruptcy and rename to .js :-p

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        2. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 10 May 2017
          Replying to @wycats @bradleymeck and

          That's key. "In defense of JS" was extremely future friendly. Literally "main" -> "module." Was dismissed too quickly imo :(

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 10 May 2017
          Replying to @AdamRackis @wycats and

          Add the other bits

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        4. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 10 May 2017
          Replying to @bradleymeck @wycats and

          iirc the other bits were there to support the transition period when projects would have both CJS and ESM modules co-existing.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 10 May 2017
          Replying to @AdamRackis @wycats and

          Kind of, modules.root is an odd duck due to scope creep and keeping file globs forever is odd

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 10 May 2017
          Replying to @bradleymeck @AdamRackis and

          Plus main was never a required field, future still deals with standalone files,etc

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 10 May 2017
          Replying to @bradleymeck @AdamRackis and

          Right. The one notable change is making an entry point field mandatory. It's good practice anyway tho.

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        8. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 10 May 2017
          Replying to @wycats @AdamRackis and

          Except when you dont have package.json or your tool doesnt deal with package.json yet. Have to add support.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 10 May 2017
          Replying to @bradleymeck @AdamRackis and

          If your tool doesn't support package.json it won't have known about CJS.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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