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    1. James Long‏ @jlongster 14 Apr 2017

      Discovered an app was using redux, need to debug it, so I injected a console.log to log all actions :Dpic.twitter.com/SO7LSk5EhF

      12 replies 136 retweets 580 likes
    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Apr 2017
      Replying to @jlongster

      Feature or bug?

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    3. Rafael Dorado‏ @MrFlopis 14 Apr 2017
      Replying to @wycats @jlongster

      Same thoughts here, I wouldn't want to expose all the actions of my page to a future attacker.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. James Long‏ @jlongster 14 Apr 2017
      Replying to @MrFlopis @wycats

      I seriously don't get this at all. Are you saying you want to write web apps in C and compile it webasm to obscure everything?

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Apr 2017
      Replying to @jlongster @MrFlopis

      I don't mind debugging tools that work on production apps. Same origin hole feels dangerous here, but that ship has sailed.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Apr 2017
      Replying to @wycats @jlongster @MrFlopis

      If everyone agreed that JS code on the internet should be considered public and should never include authenticated content we'd agree 💯

      6:59 PM - 14 Apr 2017
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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Apr 2017
          Replying to @wycats @jlongster @MrFlopis

          That's my perspective, but lots of people continue to try to defend the "authenticated JS code" perspective, which is ridiculous.

          4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. James Long‏ @jlongster 14 Apr 2017
          Replying to @wycats @MrFlopis

          does that mean that JS code served to a page came from a secure place, or the contents that JS has in memory is secure?

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        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Apr 2017
          Replying to @jlongster @MrFlopis

          It means content that contains secret data based on cookies or http auth headers.

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        5. James Long‏ @jlongster 14 Apr 2017
          Replying to @wycats @MrFlopis

          Again I *think* we're on the same page, but... isn't that every website? You login and it sets a cookie, and you're authenticated

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        6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Apr 2017
          Replying to @jlongster @MrFlopis

          HTML content might contain secret data and is reasonably protected by SOP. JS content is poorly protected and shouldn't contain secrets.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Apr 2017
          Replying to @wycats @jlongster @MrFlopis

          If your web app has require.registry or something like that and has authed secret content, any third party can get the AUTHED content.

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        8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Apr 2017
          Replying to @wycats @jlongster @MrFlopis

          The only reasonable way to program in JS on the web is to keep secret content OUT of JS.

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        9. James Long‏ @jlongster 14 Apr 2017
          Replying to @wycats @MrFlopis

          Secret meaning something like a cookie, where a 3rd party could steal & do own requests... or just priv info, like twitter DMs?

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