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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Mar 2017
      Replying to @wycats @BenSpielberg

      that divvies up the responsibility this way normally, I think it's reasonable for that to be the way they work. 2/2

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    2. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg 15 Mar 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      Understood, but that just gets back to my point that, when you're editing, it's not hard at all to also ask about the title.

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    3. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg 15 Mar 2017
      Replying to @BenSpielberg @wycats

      In any case, on the other issue, my point is just that I think perspectives should be transparent, & the "news" label isn't.

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    4. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg 15 Mar 2017
      Replying to @BenSpielberg @wycats

      Aspiring to be as objective as possible is great - I shoot for that! - but I should still let you know where I'm coming from.

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    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Mar 2017
      Replying to @BenSpielberg

      news means 'aspiring to be as objective as possible' as a label. I think it's bullshit to require people to write down 1/

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    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Mar 2017
      Replying to @wycats @BenSpielberg

      their perspective in an article about city hall. 2/2

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    7. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg 15 Mar 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      Just don't give it an arbitrary label that suggests it's "hard news." That's what I'm saying.

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    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Mar 2017
      Replying to @BenSpielberg

      it's not arbitrary. "Hard news" means "we try hard to report the facts in accordance with journalism best practices"

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    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Mar 2017
      Replying to @wycats @BenSpielberg

      it also means an editor can object to editorializing as a matter of course.

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    10. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg 15 Mar 2017
      Replying to @wycats

      And what I'm saying is that a best practice of journalism is transparency, which the label "hard news" doesn't provide.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Mar 2017
      Replying to @BenSpielberg

      I don't remember seeing "hard news" in print anywhere. It's a label that describes the effort to avoid editorializing.

      3:30 PM - 15 Mar 2017
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        2. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg 15 Mar 2017
          Replying to @wycats

          I'm quoting *you* with hard news :) - didn't you say it on this thread?

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Mar 2017
          Replying to @BenSpielberg

          Yehuda Katz  🥨 Retweeted Ben Spielberg

          I was annoyed by your cite of "news" here: https://twitter.com/BenSpielberg/status/842139747812290560 …, not "hard news"

          Yehuda Katz  🥨 added,

          Ben SpielbergVerified account @BenSpielberg
          Replying to @BenSpielberg @wycats
          In any case, on the other issue, my point is just that I think perspectives should be transparent, & the "news" label isn't.
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        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Mar 2017
          Replying to @wycats @BenSpielberg

          Yehuda Katz  🥨 Retweeted Ben Spielberg

          Actually this onehttps://twitter.com/BenSpielberg/status/842140608332464128 …

          Yehuda Katz  🥨 added,

          Ben SpielbergVerified account @BenSpielberg
          Replying to @wycats
          That's total nonsense. I insist on actual facts all the time. That doesn't mean pretending that "news" reporting is objective.
          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg 15 Mar 2017
          Replying to @wycats

          How about "news reporting?"

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Mar 2017
          Replying to @BenSpielberg

          Do you agree that it's a reasonable endeavor to try to report on what's happened in the world while minimizing editorializing?

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        7. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg 15 Mar 2017
          Replying to @wycats

          Yes. But you better know who I am and what I believe about the topic ahead of time.

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        8. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg 15 Mar 2017
          Replying to @BenSpielberg @wycats

          Because sneaky editorializing happens all the time. I prefer outright editorializing, personally. I like transparency.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Mar 2017
          Replying to @BenSpielberg

          sounds like you'd love the Op-Ed pages. "sneaky editorializing" is just another way of saying nobody can be perfect.

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        1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Mar 2017
          Replying to @wycats @BenSpielberg

          the "news" air-quotes is so incredibly destructive. it bothers me that you give it quarter.

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