I wasn't sure why none of the Redux example reducers show removing an item from an array, but I'm beginning to have an idea.pic.twitter.com/APJkP4pHvG
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my argument is that tom shouldn't have been a dingus
tbqh, the problem is that most of our design discussions in Ember end up with at least one "Y U NO REDUX".
I bet @tomdale was getting tired of it. Per @dan_abramov, the answer is that Redux is for people comfy with low-level.
This is fair. I don’t want to put Redux in ur Ember. 
don't think we need to but happy we mostly have a happy path for it (see Ember-redux) cc @toranb
I think we're gonna have a nicer story for it, but yes it works today too.
Ideally it would be something people could figure out on their own.
is that different than not knowing some ember array mutation method? @dan_abramov @tomdale
this is just old knowledge :) You can just write a getter that returns an array now.
knowing to "just write a getter" seems more advanced than freaking array.filter
@dan_abramov @tomdale
WAT. You have to put the filter somewhere. In Ember you write array.filter. The end.
but now you're trolling. your point wasn't about "advanced" but "you have to know some mutation method"
The original post felt contrived due to saying that framework implied boilerplate code 1/
That strategy could be applied to any framework, eg Ember or Redux. 2/
Thus responding with a different syntax seems valid. Perhaps the Redux docs could encourage that style? 3/3
you can: A) cheerfully learn B) keep doing it your way, why all the whining?
I don't think that's how the Ember community has operated in practice. 1/
as far back as 2014 we actively changed Ember from React learnings 2/ https://github.com/emberjs/rfcs/blob/745cf72ac8e1a00d1748274e308d3b990979facc/active/0000-the-road-to-ember-2-0.md#learning-from-the-community …
a big chunk of the linked 2.0 RFC was about adopting React data-flow. 3/3
that's what code reviews are for. Even rockstars like Tom need reviewed. Especially before this sort of tweet
also, the code you write in ANY framework/lang is going to improve over time as patterns are learned @wycats @dan_abramov @tomdale
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