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    1. Tom Dale‏ @tomdale 8 Mar 2017

      I wasn't sure why none of the Redux example reducers show removing an item from an array, but I'm beginning to have an idea.pic.twitter.com/APJkP4pHvG

      25 replies 13 retweets 78 likes
    2. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 8 Mar 2017
      Replying to @tomdale

      OK Tom I’ll bitepic.twitter.com/BcPajLPa3q

      6 replies 18 retweets 192 likes
    3. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 8 Mar 2017
      Replying to @dan_abramov @tomdale

      Let’s also remove some weird indirection in this examplepic.twitter.com/ire6NGjMdu

      11 replies 4 retweets 68 likes
    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 8 Mar 2017
      Replying to @dan_abramov @tomdale

      it's probably worth noting that if your argument is "the problem is that Tom Dale is a worse programmer than 1/

      2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 8 Mar 2017
      Replying to @wycats @dan_abramov @tomdale

      Dan Abramov", it's possible that many other people will find themselves as flummoxed as Tom. In other words, 2/

      2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 8 Mar 2017
      Replying to @wycats @dan_abramov @tomdale

      if the KO argument for your programming model is that the creator came up with a clever answer to a challenge, 3/

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 8 Mar 2017
      Replying to @wycats @dan_abramov @tomdale

      lots of users are going to encounter the same challenge but not be #winning like #MotherFuckingDanAbramov. 4/4

      5 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
    8. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 8 Mar 2017
      Replying to @wycats @tomdale

      I don’t think dividing functions into functions is very clever, but yes, it is required for using Redux successfully.

      2 replies 2 retweets 36 likes
    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 8 Mar 2017
      Replying to @dan_abramov @tomdale

      your argument was, more or less, that Tom should have remembered about .filter(). It's probably not that Tom 1/

      3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 8 Mar 2017
      Replying to @wycats @dan_abramov @tomdale

      wasn't *aware* of .filter(), but that he didn't think of it here. The fact that you remembered it isn't an answer. 2/2

      4:28 PM - 8 Mar 2017
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        2. BOOlean  👻 🐶 🏳️‍🌈‏ @jamiebuilds 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @wycats @dan_abramov @tomdale

          my argument is that tom shouldn't have been a dingus

          1 reply 1 retweet 22 likes
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @jamiebuilds @thejameskyle @dan_abramov

          tbqh, the problem is that most of our design discussions in Ember end up with at least one "Y U NO REDUX".

          3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @wycats @thejameskyle

          I bet @tomdale was getting tired of it. Per @dan_abramov, the answer is that Redux is for people comfy with low-level.

          5 replies 2 retweets 5 likes
        5. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @wycats @thejameskyle @tomdale

          This is fair. I don’t want to put Redux in ur Ember. 😅

          3 replies 2 retweets 12 likes
        6. Chris Thoburn‏ @Runspired 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @dan_abramov @wycats and

          don't think we need to but happy we mostly have a happy path for it (see Ember-redux) cc @toranb

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @Runspired @dan_abramov and

          I think we're gonna have a nicer story for it, but yes it works today too.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @wycats @Runspired and

          Ideally it would be something people could figure out on their own.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        9. End of conversation
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        2. Ryan Florence‏ @ryanflorence 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @wycats

          is that different than not knowing some ember array mutation method? @dan_abramov @tomdale

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @ryanflorence @dan_abramov @tomdale

          this is just old knowledge :) You can just write a getter that returns an array now.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Ryan Florence‏ @ryanflorence 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @wycats

          knowing to "just write a getter" seems more advanced than freaking array.filter 😂 @dan_abramov @tomdale

          1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @ryanflorence @dan_abramov @tomdale

          WAT. You have to put the filter somewhere. In Ember you write array.filter. The end.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @wycats @ryanflorence and

          but now you're trolling. your point wasn't about "advanced" but "you have to know some mutation method"

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. End of conversation
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        2. Phips Peter‏ @pspeter3 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @wycats @dan_abramov @tomdale

          The original post felt contrived due to saying that framework implied boilerplate code 1/

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Phips Peter‏ @pspeter3 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @pspeter3 @wycats and

          That strategy could be applied to any framework, eg Ember or Redux. 2/

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Phips Peter‏ @pspeter3 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @pspeter3 @wycats and

          Thus responding with a different syntax seems valid. Perhaps the Redux docs could encourage that style? 3/3

          4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        5. Kyle Chamberlain‏ @papakoleok 9 Mar 2017
          Replying to @pspeter3 @wycats and

          you can: A) cheerfully learn B) keep doing it your way, why all the whining?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 9 Mar 2017
          Replying to @papakoleok @pspeter3 and

          I don't think that's how the Ember community has operated in practice. 1/

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 9 Mar 2017
          Replying to @wycats @papakoleok and

          as far back as 2014 we actively changed Ember from React learnings 2/ https://github.com/emberjs/rfcs/blob/745cf72ac8e1a00d1748274e308d3b990979facc/active/0000-the-road-to-ember-2-0.md#learning-from-the-community …

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 9 Mar 2017
          Replying to @wycats @papakoleok and

          a big chunk of the linked 2.0 RFC was about adopting React data-flow. 3/3

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        9. End of conversation
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        2. Ben Lesh  🧢 🏋️‍♂️ 💻 🎨‏ @BenLesh 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @wycats @dan_abramov @tomdale

          that's what code reviews are for. Even rockstars like Tom need reviewed. Especially before this sort of tweet

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        3. Alex Matchneer‏ @amatchneer 8 Mar 2017
          Replying to @BenLesh

          also, the code you write in ANY framework/lang is going to improve over time as patterns are learned @wycats @dan_abramov @tomdale

          0 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
        4. End of conversation

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