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    1. Who ordered *that*?‏ @ManishEarth 16 Dec 2016
      Replying to @ManishEarth @littlecalculist

      I see a lot of folks unwilling to pick up new languages because of syntax.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Who ordered *that*?‏ @ManishEarth 16 Dec 2016
      Replying to @ManishEarth @littlecalculist

      I've heard folks complaining that langs don't use `type varname` sytax just because they never left their C++/Java bubble.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Who ordered *that*?‏ @ManishEarth 16 Dec 2016
      Replying to @ManishEarth @littlecalculist

      A friend of mine didn't like Rust because it used `let` instead of `var`. That was the *only* reason.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Who ordered *that*?‏ @ManishEarth 16 Dec 2016
      Replying to @ManishEarth @littlecalculist

      When learning new languages you absolutely have to ignore syntax for a bit and get used to it. Syntax does not matter.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Who ordered *that*?‏ @ManishEarth 16 Dec 2016
      Replying to @ManishEarth @littlecalculist

      In other words, syntax should not be the only reason you ditch a language.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Who ordered *that*?‏ @ManishEarth 16 Dec 2016
      Replying to @ManishEarth @littlecalculist

      OTOH, when *designing* a language, syntax does matter. Because it does matter when using the language.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. corvus frugilegus‏ @glaebhoerl 16 Dec 2016
      Replying to @ManishEarth @littlecalculist

      It also does matter because you can try to reduce the impediment to adoption as much as possible.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. corvus frugilegus‏ @glaebhoerl 16 Dec 2016
      Replying to @glaebhoerl @ManishEarth @littlecalculist

      Obviously you're not going to get the folks who get hung up on `let` vs `var`, but it's a spectrum.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. corvus frugilegus‏ @glaebhoerl 16 Dec 2016
      Replying to @glaebhoerl @ManishEarth @littlecalculist

      I find myself being impeded from becoming more familiar with a language due to its syntax all the time.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. deech‏ @deech 16 Dec 2016
      Replying to @glaebhoerl @ManishEarth @littlecalculist

      I can't agree with the article. Picking a lang. by syntax is like choosing a car by radio presets.

      5 replies 2 retweets 7 likes
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2016
      Replying to @deech @glaebhoerl and

      it's like choosing a car by break pad presets and whether it has airbags/ABS built in.

      2:06 PM - 16 Dec 2016
      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @deech and

          what criteria would you use?

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. deech‏ @deech 16 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @glaebhoerl and

          By what the thing can do, guarantees provided, if runtime how GCs works, metaprogramming,

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2016
          Replying to @deech @glaebhoerl and

          isn't "what the thing can do" trivially equivalent due to turing completeness?

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. deech‏ @deech 16 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @glaebhoerl and

          I respectfully bow out of conversations on TC.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2016
          Replying to @deech @glaebhoerl and

          I'm trying to understand what makes languages *different* in your view. 1/

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @deech and

          Languages are, at bottom, able to express the same computation, so that can't be it 2/

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @deech and

          can you say more? 3/3

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. deech‏ @deech 16 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          deech Retweeted deech

          I mention some of my criterion here https://twitter.com/deech/status/809883383815929857 … and https://twitter.com/deech/status/809883863384260612 … but I maybe misunderstanding you.

          deech added,

          deech @deech
          Replying to @deech @wycats and 3 others
          composability of core ideas vs. ad-hoc constructs would try APL/Forth in a heartbeat.
          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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        1. deech‏ @deech 16 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @glaebhoerl and

          airbags/ABS is not syntax.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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