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    1. Chris Thoburn‏ @Runspired 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @Runspired @CiaranReen

      the same practices are best with both. Immutable down, actions back up to responsible locale.

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    2. Chris Thoburn‏ @Runspired 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @Runspired @CiaranReen

      what I think redux does well is encourage and partially enforce this from the beginning.

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    3. Chris Thoburn‏ @Runspired 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @Runspired @CiaranReen

      whereas with ember-data you aren't encouraged into this mentality yet (will be)

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Chris Thoburn‏ @Runspired 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @Runspired @CiaranReen

      (by encouraged I mean that the default mutable record setup obscures that you should follow DDAU no matter how much we push it)

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    5. Chris Thoburn‏ @Runspired 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @Runspired @CiaranReen

      but a neat thing: although ember-data isn't immutable yet, it's only your topmost redux store+request layer. Enforce from there.

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    6. Ciaran Reen‏ @CiaranReen 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @Runspired

      I'm going to grab the version. But I'll bet it's not ember2 which I guess you're referring to.

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    7. Chris Thoburn‏ @Runspired 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @CiaranReen

      modern ember began around 1.11/1.12 but most too until 2.x to adopt using those patterns.

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    8. Ciaran Reen‏ @CiaranReen 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @Runspired

      I remember a talk from @wycats where he was talking about the evolution of ember. Indeed it's come far.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Ciaran Reen‏ @CiaranReen 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @CiaranReen @Runspired

      even taken some cues from the flux ideology if I remember correctly

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    10. Chris Thoburn‏ @Runspired 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @CiaranReen

      two-way binding is cool and still has it's place, but I think we all recognize going all in on it was a big mistake.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @Runspired @CiaranReen

      the big open question has to do with form fields. @chancancode long ago convinced me they require more thinking.

      7:43 AM - 10 Dec 2016
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        2. Chris Thoburn‏ @Runspired 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @CiaranReen @chancancode

          I think microstates and changesets with explicit model change flow is generally the right direction

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        3. Chris Thoburn‏ @Runspired 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @Runspired @wycats and

          although probably not the final form

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        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @Runspired @CiaranReen

          's point has to do with form fields managing internal state, but 140 chars isn't enough. Let's catch up.

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        5. Joel Kang‏ @dudboi 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @Runspired and

          Seems to me that the problem is HTML form fields are stateful... kinda.

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        6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @dudboi @Runspired and

          Nah the problem is some parts of state (cursor, selection) aren't represented by upstream data

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Joel Kang‏ @dudboi 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @Runspired and

          hmm, is the end goal to abstract the browser away from the browser?

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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