@wycats isn't commiting the lib lockfiles a CI hazard? Like if I tell travis to build+test my repo, it will use the lock by default?
"reproducible CI" means "hm my test failed but it looks like it may be intermittent." -> restart test -> you can actually tell
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I have zero concern about this for 99.9% of use cases (which is what defaults matter for). Most CI takes like, a minute to run.
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you haven't had intermittent test failures on CI?
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anyway, you don't have to agree with me. I changed my mind after years of agreeing with you and seeing costs slowly shift.
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I'm saying there's basically zero impact of intermittent failures for small projects. I can run it like 5 times in a mins to be sure
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they suck EGGS for large projects because it's like "well crap there goes another hour"
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it has nothing to do with running it 5 times. It has to do with reproducing the failure in an env that has a debugger.
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CI spews the exact numbers: https://travis-ci.org/rust-lang-nursery/regex/jobs/176188633#L228-L243 …
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if you want a more ergonomic experience: set up the defaults so CI will literally output a lock file in the logs.
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