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    1. Josh Marshall‏Verified account @joshtpm 4 Dec 2016

      1: All of the focus on "fake news" is good. And journalists, actual journalists as opposed to liars, have a key responsibility to ...

      18 replies 93 retweets 264 likes
    2. Josh Marshall‏Verified account @joshtpm 4 Dec 2016
      Replying to @joshtpm

      2: continually correct erroneous claims, deliver accurate reports, distinguish between what is false and what is accurate as clearly ...

      6 replies 39 retweets 135 likes
    3. Josh Marshall‏Verified account @joshtpm 4 Dec 2016
      Replying to @joshtpm

      3: as we can know these things. But we should also remember that the driving force behind most "fake news" is individual people's desire...

      1 reply 25 retweets 82 likes
    4. Josh Marshall‏Verified account @joshtpm 4 Dec 2016
      Replying to @joshtpm

      4: to believe things which conform to their fears, assumptions, desires even though they are improbable and often absurd. The great ...

      4 replies 24 retweets 91 likes
    5. Josh Marshall‏Verified account @joshtpm 4 Dec 2016
      Replying to @joshtpm

      5: majority of 'fake news' examples are things that would be highly implausible to people with even general news literacy or the most...

      4 replies 22 retweets 94 likes
    6. Josh Marshall‏Verified account @joshtpm 4 Dec 2016
      Replying to @joshtpm

      6: elementary skepticism. Again, this doesn't mean there is no role for journalism in combating this. Journalisms role is huge. But ...

      2 replies 15 retweets 57 likes
    7. Josh Marshall‏Verified account @joshtpm 4 Dec 2016
      Replying to @joshtpm

      7: we should also keep in my a more elemental and sociological desire to believe things that are not true. You cannot strap people down...

      3 replies 17 retweets 66 likes
    8. Josh Marshall‏Verified account @joshtpm 4 Dec 2016
      Replying to @joshtpm

      8: and compel to focus on what is accurate as opposed to what is false.

      13 replies 18 retweets 60 likes
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 4 Dec 2016
      Replying to @joshtpm

      a related problem: many arguments from the left are of the form: "True Fact => Opinion" and then spend time berating people 1/

      1:02 PM - 4 Dec 2016
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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 4 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @joshtpm

          for disbelieving THE FACT when in fact they disagree with the resulting opinion. Many people being yelled at for "denying facts" 2/

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 4 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @joshtpm

          don't have a good handle on this, so they start to disbelieve arguments that look like "some facts, therefore some conclusion" 3/

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        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 4 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @joshtpm

          but of course every argument has that shape. So people start conflating "global warming is real" with "unemployment is down, 4/

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 4 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @joshtpm

          therefore you're better off". Then they say "Trump voters don't understand the basic facts of unemployment" when they 5/

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        6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 4 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @joshtpm

          really mean "Trump voters disbelieve the statement that the economy is getting better FOR THEM because it doesn't feel true" 6/

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        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 4 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @joshtpm

          there are still major biases (voters flipping opinions on the economy a day after election) but conflating Facts with 7/

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 4 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @joshtpm

          "my conclusion about what the fact should mean to you" is incredibly corrosive to our ability to make progress on things that 8/

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        9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 4 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @joshtpm

          really ARE about true things (global warming, incidents of police brutality, etc) 9/9

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        2. Anthony Ortenzi‏ @aortenzi 4 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @joshtpm

          This is a failure to expose the underlying model behind conclusions. Journalists should expose the model.

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 4 Dec 2016
          Replying to @aortenzi @joshtpm

          yep, but it's way easier to say "Y U NO FACTS, RUBES!"

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        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 4 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @aortenzi @joshtpm

          if I had a nickel for every time someone said "don't they know unemployment was down"...

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        5. Anthony Ortenzi‏ @aortenzi 4 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @joshtpm

          How do we create a platform for model comparison, and get politicians to expose their models w/o missing "externalities"?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Anthony Ortenzi‏ @aortenzi 4 Dec 2016
          Replying to @aortenzi @wycats @joshtpm

          "Gotcha politics" is about finding externalities and invalidating someone else's model because of them.

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        7. End of conversation
        1. tomjlowe‏ @tomjlowe 4 Dec 2016
          Replying to @wycats @joshtpm

          What "left"? Are you referring to the slightly less rightwing contingent that goes by that designation?

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        1. Joanne M Marinelli‏ @Jozannyme 4 Dec 2016
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          I simply berate for sport

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