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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @matthewcp @BrendanEich and

      the opcodes are an IR, designed for better client-side optz.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @wycats @BrendanEich and

      I believe you just would love some specifics.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @matthewcp @wycats and

      I've written engines that are both fast and expressive without the complexity.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @matthewcp @wycats and

      So would love to know where they are failing compared to an IR approach.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @matthewcp @BrendanEich @BenLesh

      the idea is to use a simpler, pure language so tons of work can be done ahead of time.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @wycats @BrendanEich @BenLesh

      The cost of compiling to that language can't be cheap though.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @matthewcp @BrendanEich @BenLesh

      server-side compilation cost isn't a big concern, because: 1/

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @wycats @matthewcp and

      1. the realtime constraint is on the client, not the server, and the realtime constraint is severe. 2/

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @wycats @matthewcp and

      2. you precompile once and then serve the static asset tons of times, so easily amortizes. 3/3

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @wycats @BrendanEich @BenLesh

      I precompile every time I change a template, no? You said this wasn't complex.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @matthewcp @BrendanEich @BenLesh

      if you think the complexity of a build step is too high, you're not gonna be very competitive sadly :/

      5:09 PM - 28 Nov 2016
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        2. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 28 Nov 2016
          Replying to @wycats @BrendanEich @BenLesh

          It's huge, few devs were around to remember how easy dev was before it though, definitely a tough sell today.

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        3. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 28 Nov 2016
          Replying to @matthewcp @wycats and

          There's nothing as simple as text editor + browser for development though.

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        4. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 28 Nov 2016
          Replying to @matthewcp @wycats and

          I'm pretty confident once modules are native it will come back in style.

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        5. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 28 Nov 2016
          Replying to @matthewcp @wycats and

          Polymer and others still believe in it, not as niche as you make it sound.

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        6. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 28 Nov 2016
          Replying to @matthewcp @wycats @BenLesh

          "and others"? who? "Polymer" had me rofl. A five year plan that missed the market. Niche or not, build step ok.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        7. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 28 Nov 2016
          Replying to @BrendanEich @wycats @BenLesh

          All the libraries written to run primarily in the browser. Build step means using non-web tools.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 28 Nov 2016
          Replying to @matthewcp @BrendanEich and

          It's "ok", but a bug in the platform. Not self-sufficient.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 28 Nov 2016
          Replying to @matthewcp @wycats @BenLesh

          Turing incompleteness result of Hilbert's Tenth Problem is a thing indeed. "ok" or not, reality. Platform buggy!

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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