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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Nov 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      Strings), which meant a decent amount of encoding weirdness for a little bit, but, in the long-term, a smooth-enough transition. 7/

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Nov 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      The summary of the difference is this: In Ruby, it was possible to write a full shim library that worked in both 1.8 and 1.9 for 8/

      2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Nov 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      everything that we needed in Rails (I wrote a large amount of it and did a lot of the encoding work in Rails 3). In contrast, Py3.0 9/

      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Nov 2016
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      shipped syntactic changes that were mutually exclusive with Py2.x. This made it impossible for Django to use the shim approach we 10/

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Nov 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      used in Rails, and which got us on the "latest Ruby" train literally as early as was plausible. If you want to disagree with this 11/

      1 reply 2 retweets 4 likes
    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Nov 2016
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      analysis, you need to find an explanation for the wide difference in OUTCOMES between Py3 and Ruby1.9. Again, encodings ain't it. 12/12

      8 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    7. Micah Wylde‏ @mwylde 23 Nov 2016
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      1.9 also shipped with *huge* perf improvements over 1.8, which provided a strong incentive to upgrade. It was still kind of painful.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Nov 2016
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      it was painful but reducing the pain was an intentional and concerted effort (I was part of it), including reverting some 1/

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    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Nov 2016
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      "necessary" breaking changes once they caused too much upgrade problems. 2/2

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    10. Micah Wylde‏ @mwylde 23 Nov 2016
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      That definitely helped. But the carrot-and-stick approach of tying in YARV convinced a lot of people to do the work.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Nov 2016
      Replying to @mwylde

      right, and Py3k choosing to be slower at first definitely didn't help.

      11:19 PM - 23 Nov 2016
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