you need to admit that things aren't going so well and commit to substantive changes to change the game at this point. 2/
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1.9 also shipped with *huge* perf improvements over 1.8, which provided a strong incentive to upgrade. It was still kind of painful.
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it was painful but reducing the pain was an intentional and concerted effort (I was part of it), including reverting some 1/
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That definitely helped. But the carrot-and-stick approach of tying in YARV convinced a lot of people to do the work.
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right, and Py3k choosing to be slower at first definitely didn't help.
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No one has any good theories of programming language adoption, so it seems unfair to demand it of Python developers.
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I'm surprised to hear you say this.
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no idea why the need for comparison. For what it's worth, majority of the library are py2&3 compatible, with many dropping py2 alr.
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the comparison illustrates that many of the explanations for the py3 timeframe don't hold up.
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i think py3 adoption was an issue for the longest time no doubt, but the doom and gloom scenario is far from true IMO.
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I agree with your analysis. what would you recommend py3 folks do at this point?
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@gvanrossum@raymondh Make py4 compatible with py2 and 3, mark py2's stuff as deprecated, minors…, remove deprecated in py5
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Haven't followed py news in a while. Isn't there a decent 2-to-3 transpiler yet?
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do you see any similarities in needing to support many module/build systems in JS?
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I use exclusive Python 3 now. No need to drop to 2.
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